Should the schools reopen?

Lizbethann55
Does anyone know if there have been any reports of children or teachers who have continued to be in schools falling ill?

I can't speak specifically for schools, but I do know that the nursery that my dgd usually attends has had to close two rooms because of coronavirus.
Like many schools and nurseries, the nursery had been kept open for the children of key workers.

DiL classes as a key worker but has been working from home because she is shielded, so obviously obviously dgd has not been sent to nursery during this time, as to do so would have been crazy because of the risk of her bringing the infection into the home - and one of the infected classes is the one she would usually have been in!

I don't really see much difference in this respect between the the risks in nurseries and those amongst the younger school years.

What really worries me about the schools not opening is the children who have been locked down in multi storey blocks of flats with no parks, no open spaces and definitely no gardens. With parents who are totally inadequate and have absolutely no desire or ability to manage their children every hour of every day. The children whose parents are alcoholics or drug users. The children whose only refuge, safety, break from abuse was going to school. I worry about what damage has already been done to them and what further harm will befall them if they have no escape or break or even the most rudimentary education until September.

My grandson, Year 6, is going back on Tuesday. We are all happy about it, especially him. There will be plenty of space. They will be using the building normally occupied by Years 7 and 8 of the senior school. (He is at a school with juniors and seniors on the same site.)

It would have been very sad to leave the Junior School without saying goodbye to his teachers and friends. As it is, so much of the fun of that last year as a junior will be missed, including all the school trips, performances and ceremonies.

I suppose there is some risk, but I’m sure they will be very strictly supervised, and at the age of 11 they are old enough to understand why they must keep the rules. I would be much more worried about the younger ones who are supposed to be returning.

BlueBelle, and meanwhile schools will be run like military academies while rules and regulations are meted out ?
This way of life is also harmful to children while trying to learn at the same time. Children are social beings and anything beyond this is alien to them.

School police in the playground ?

ellenvanin why not wait until no more cases are confirmed
Because we have to learn how to live with the virus it isn’t going to go away just like AIDS for years it was a much feared killer but with so much education on safe sex and then later medication it is now a part of life we rarely hear much about
If you are waiting for no cases you will have a very long wait Im afraid probably not in our lifetime We aren’t going to eradicate Covid 19 but we can learn how to control its effect on us many of the past big viruses are still around and will spring up from time to time like Ebola does, others have mutated and some have got weaker

A special needs school near us has been open all the time. Not sure what the youngest age is there.
A friend whose work colleague has a child in attendance there said no way was social distancing taking place. Assume it would not be possible with the different abilities and understanding the children have.

Why can’t they have an afternoon session and a morning session that could double the intake without crowding

I think they need opening the kids are going to be mentally conditioned to a fear of illness and socialising at least if they can see their friends even if they are taught to socially distance FOR NOW It has been proved children are only rarely affected and there is also now talk about them not even being carriers and the desk can be kept apart
Sweden and other countries have kept them open successfully definitely the older children should be back I don’t see the rush for very young children
I don’t think there’s nearly enough understanding of mental health in all this
We have lived through pandemics before and through horrible flu epidemics and managed without destroying our children’s education and mental health

Leave them closed until after the summer. It's ridiculous to think that all children will keep a safe distance.
Not only that, it'll make things worse if there's another wave right on autumn.
Why not wait until no more cases are confirmed ?

I think they should stay shut for safety reasons as we all know you can be a carrier of covid and not even know.

Very uneasy as a retired teacher and grandparent. Maybe it could work but I just think of how excited small children will be to see friends again and wonder how they will cope with personal distancing.
A week ago I chatted to a couple, neighbours I didn’t previously know, as we put the bins out. Afterwards I realised that part of the time I’d forgotten personal distancing and we only had a wheelie bin separating us. And I’ve been strictly observing guidelines since mid-March.
I just want the children, and staff of course, to be safe.

This is worth watching …

Independent Sage discussing why they're concerned about re-opening. They know what they're talking about.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PANBG9BDYL8

It's nearly an hour, so make a cuppa before settling down to watch it.

That is why they are only going in one day a week - nine pupils per group one teacher and one teaching assistant.

They need extra teachers as well as extra rooms, and spreading even half the class in separate rooms isn't always possible, depending on the room and the furniture, and the activities they are doing - it could be 3 or even 4 rooms and teachers per class. You can't have just one teacher running from one room to another - the one without supervision would be bound to have one child doing something daft. . Reception class are not good at sitting in one place at the best of times, and they have just met up again with their friends . . . There are other practical things like that too.

One of our GC is in reception they are going in one day a week in a group of nine, with social distancing.

One of our GC is going back to nursery, the nursery have said that they will not be social distancing, but will be extra scrupulously hand washing and cleaning.

But aren't they talking about only one year going in at high school level and only the oldest and youngest at primary? So there would be plenty of empty rooms to spread out in.

I think they should stay closed. I'm a teacher and many of my friends are still at work, in school.

However, from what those friends have said, it is manageable coping with 25/30 children and trying to keep them distanced, sort of. Impossible with 800. If one of them has the virus, it'll run rampant through the school before anyone even knows that one child is infectious.