Anger at rule breakers.

Keep yourself safe and remember this will pass. We in Spain are nearly at our new norm whatever that might be. There are idiots out there avoid if you can or wear a mask. I’ve been wearing a mask since March (my choice) it’s now compulsory over here. Can you create your ‘bubble’ with a friend. It’s hard but with luck you’ll be at your new norm in a few weeks. I think you in uk are 10-14 days behind Spain. You’ve come so far. And your allowed your opinion as to who you want to mix with. Do it your way when your ready

It's pointless getting upset. There will always be people who break/bend rules. Human nature

As for what's happening in London with the mass protests, I think we can stop worrying about our neighbour's misdemeanours.

I can understand your feelings. We are powerless in this situation. While some people will be going out for good reason and maybe doing essential childminding I think the vast majority are doing what feels right for them. This infuriates me as they seem to think they know better than the experts who advise us. I have followed the rules as I would like to hug my GC, visit a dentist, attend hospital etc. as soon as possible. Those people who care nothing but for their own pleasure will have a lot to answer for if another wave comes. I see today that in China after 50 days virus free they have another outbreak. I think their tracing system will be much more efficient than ours so they will stand a chance of containing it. I don't think we have that here at all and also if people who can't follow the rules now, would they quarantine if asked? I think not! As I said on another thread I will feel very differently about the folk who broke the rules when we eventually come out of this.

It is good advice not to let it get you worked up, but I'm finding it very difficult to be civil to my neighbours who appear to think the rules somehow don't apply to them, having large family gatherings for weeks when I can't travel to see my own family. I have come very close to disliking them intensely. And if lockdown is tightened because of fools like them...

I too understand why you get angry about this, but honestly, you are only distressing yourself. The people who are breaking the rules are not going to stop doing so because we are annoyed and worried.

So either we have to keep the rules ourselves and not admit rule-breakers into our homes and just try to ignore them, or we need to report them.

TenaciousB you are doing the right thing! The way you are feeling is exactly right too. I would feel as bad as you do if I was experiencing the same things. If everyone was doing the right thing, we could all feel we were in this awful situation together. As it is, many are making up their own rules to suit themselves. Sometimes it’s pure selfishness, often ignorance. I sometimes wonder how these people would feel if they discovered they were responsible for someone’s serious illness or death. Would they shrug it off or feel bad for the rest of their life?
Surely if you care about your family or friends, you’d do anything to protect them? Even if that meant acting against all your caring instincts?

Problem is, TenaciousB, ultimately the people who break the rules aren't just putting themselves at risk, or even just their family, they are putting us all at risk by ensuring that the virus will take much longer to dissipate. They are either too stupid, or selfish, or both, to see it. I live in an apartment block and neighbours have been visiting each others' apartments for over a month. When I mentioned it by text to a couple of - I thought - more sensible neighbours, they said they weren't 'into telling tales' - which was not the point; I was expressing my annoyance as I'm shielding a partner with cancer. Since then I have stayed silent but cleansed handles, letterboxes and doors around the block with bleach and soapy water. Many people who've seen me have quipped and made comments intending to belittle my concern. I just grin and carry on. Our postwoman, however, thanked me for taking care of herself and colleagues. Some responsible, some irresponsible. That's life - and for the irresponsible, potential infection/death (plus R .9).

Elsewhere is a thread asking how safe the "bubbles" will be, and I would say they are as safe as the people that one person in that bubble comes into contact with.

couldnt agree more, the selfish way certain members of the public are behaving is so so annoying, we have been sheltered for the past12 weeks and feel the way these idiots is like a slap in the face, there are no excuses, do they just not care, its the ,, I`m all right jack mentality

Mollypussy
There are those for who now lockdown has been relaxed see this as a 'whoopee back to normal ?do as I want when I want.
The majority are sensible as yourself and in your case are now able to use this relaxation by assisting your D so she doesn't lose her job. Do not feel guilty.

It does make me mad when the government say the majority are sticking to the rules - in my world although many are many are not. At one time I too was getting so wound up about it but now my thinking is as long as me and mine are sticking to it let those idiots carry on.

Look after yourself, others can look after themselves.

I haven't seen my4yr old grandson who lives about 90 mins drive from me. As I know he'll want to go a play indoors. J he'll want a cuddle. But as I'm a childminder if required I'm allowed to work and have someone in my house. Lucky for me the parents are lovely they are working from home and keeping their daughter with them.

I'm with those who say it's pointless getting angry/envious of what others are or are not doing. Just concentrate on what you and your family are doing & try not to concern yourself about what's going on next door as it's none of your business what others are doing unless it directly impacts on you.

SueDonim your words make the best sense. Anger over things you can’t control just puts your blood pressure up and can make you depressed. Wishing rule breakers would become ill is awful-and you might find it applies to your friends and family. Not a nice thing to live with.
I would however like to know if there has been a sudden spike amongst people who have visited crowded beaches, attended protests etc. Not because I wish them to be ill but because it would help us make sense of lockdown rules.

In the Anchor -Hanover residential home where I live , some tenants are breaking rules daily ignoring 2m distancing, there is also a case of two people who live in separate flats , but have bee with each other before lockdown ignoring the 2m distance plus .
We a lounge for tenants this is out of bounds , in the end the management had to remove furniture in order to stop people going in there playing cards and drinking during lockdown .
Anchor -Hanover have done there own policy's under the Corona virus available on there website with does and don'ts the ignorant who do think they not immune to getting the virus themselves but one day some over 75 and 80 could get it .
Mick

I think the OP says it all when she admits to anger eating away at her. Concentrate on looking after yourself the way that you see fit and stop worrying about others, if they are not directly endangering you. Some people's lives are not as straightforward as others and have acted in a way that you see as breaking the rules, but you don't know exactly what risk assessment they have done, or their precise circumstances.
Wishing the virus upon those you see as rule breakers is vile (not OP some replies)

My view is that a lot of people are interpreting lockdown rules to suit themselves. Initially this did anger me however, anger is an emotion which takes a lot of energy, I would rather channel my energy positively. Providing other people’s actions do not directly affect me I would not get involved.

There have always been and always will be people who are selfish and think rules and regulation apply to everyone but themself. As long as you are doing what you know to be safe for you and those you encounter, forget about the idiots with no commonsense, you won't change them.

I live in Wales where we are only allowed to travel 5 miles away from home. The police are patrolling and enforcing this law. Unlike in England this is enforceable by the police. It makes me angry when people from England are stopped by the police hundreds of miles away from home and as one lady said she thought that Wales was in England and didn't know that wales was a separate country with different laws. Perhaps the fact that she and her children were the only ones on the beach should have told her something!!

Don't worry about others will cause you anxiety

More wise words from SueDonim here and exactly what I advise. No need to get angry ... that only hurts you. You must do what you feel is right for you and take no notice of what others are getting up to, whether they are friends or not. I guess they all have their own standards or ideas of what is safe.

I have got friends/ neighbours picking rules to suit themselves as well. The bit I find difficult is I get the feeling they think I’m wrong and a bit of weirdo/pussy for continuing to follow the rules put up, which in Scotland ( as we are behind still ) are not really complex.

It makes me angry even if it doesn’t immediately impact on me and mine. Ultimately, these selfish b******s WILL affect us all by allowing a second wave, resulting in a further lockdown, more deaths ( and risk to my daughters who both work in the NHS) and even more damage to the economy. I think everyone should adhere to all the rules do we can have a hope of getting this beaten. ?

Let’s just pray the rule breakers don’t cause a surge in the infection because I don’t want to go back into strict lockdown, selfish idiotic people do they not realise we are in the middle of a pandemic it’s not over yet !!