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Kim19 I've worn one before but gave up on it as it was so claustrophobic and stifling. The last time I was shopping most people seemed to be wearing one so this time I thought I'd better join them but today I was back to being odd one out!

Jane 10, would be really interested to hear what actually made you decide to wear a mask if you are willing to divulge.

From the link posted by Abracadabra -
"two things protected protesters against disease transmission more than some scientists expected: wearing masks and being outdoors."

Franbern the majority of people on GN will be among those who are at greatest risk.
Being super-careful may be helping to keep them/us sane.

What Franbern said ??

Spot on Franbern

Mozisart - do not think the choice is as you put it - 'six foot apart or six foot under'!!! This sort of hysteria has been very damaging to the mental health of many people, particularly children!!!

Yes, the infection rate of this Covid is high - but mortality rate is low. Yes, those who have some pre- existing conditions, need to take more care, but for most of the population, chances are that should they contract the virus they may be ill for a week or two, and then will be able to go on with their lives.

So many children are getting terrified about their parents, etc dying, that it is the children who are terrified to go outside. One of my g.children has just refused to get into the car - had to be forced in crying. Feels that the space in a car is too close!!!!

This virus is bad and nasty - the economic collapse is bad and will be very nasty for decades to come. Many many people will have their lives destroyed, not by the virus, but by the economic fall-out. The mental health of many will be shot to pieces forever. Even on these threads we read of so many typical OCD type behaviors developing and fear of going outside their homes.

We need to get things into proportion.

Can't blooming win! One day everyone in the supermarket is wearing masks so I decide to wear one next time and this morning I was the only one wearing a mask. My glasses are still steamed up!!

Sorry, didn't realise Franburn had already posted the same thing.

Thank you I will have to be stronger and when I figure out how to use gransnet properly I will do a full post... I’m sure other people like to spend time in their garden without having to listen to other people’s choice of music. All day long !
Also I want to spend my time with my dog happily.
I will try your suggestions

I agree with you EllanVannin.

I agree with you.

Franbern

Doe?s this sum it all up?

This coronavirus is the strangest virus I've ever heard of. It's very dangerous the way it spreads.
It is so mysterious the way it lurks in schools, but then dies at Home Bargains.
It can wreak havoc in pubs and restaurants! Although it’s mind-boggling how it vanishes at the beach or in the park. Yet, standing to watch a marathon or at a gig or festival triggers its wrath.
It is sneaky. It can spread when buying clothes at Primark but not at Tesco's or Asda.
It is non-alcoholic. It can't spread when you are buying beer.
It lives for 24 hours on Amazon boxes, you must wait 24 hours to touch them but it can't survive on takeaway coffee cups, so enjoying a hot latte is safe.
It is the most curious thing, how it lives on footballs, tennis rackets and ballet bars, but dies on shopping trolleys and food.
It is spread by hair stylists, dog groomers, and dentists, but not by bank machines, cashiers, and fast food workers.
It's so smart. It won’t bother the first 6 people that get together but it knows when the 7th person shows up so be careful if that’s you.
It even knows what you want vs what you need. If you want a massage or your nails done it is very actively on the prowl and not even a mask can stop it. If you need a plumber, it is weak, and a mask will keep it away.
It also seems to be most dangerous after 5:30pm so businesses must start to close before the virus comes out and wreaks havoc upon the populations.
Whoever heard of such a smart sneaky virus?!? ???

Your post is brilliant , it sums up all the confusion this goverment has given out to people, little wonder why people are now ignoring safety measures, which I find very worrying indeed, this virus will not go away until there is a vaccine, you can't see it, you don't knnow where it is or who is carrying it or where it lies on surfaces. I for one would rather be safe on the ground with a six foot social distance than being six foot under ground.

Cava, I’m also so sorry about your little dog

Cava

Am I the only one who hates other people’s music. If not played really loud? I lived in what was a fairly quiet road fir 10 years but three years ago new people moved in across the road and had renovations, which is fine but the builders played their music all day and every day fir three months and I didn’t go out into my garden fir that time. It drives me crazy. Now next door but one to them, also opposite my garden, (new people) are doing huge amount of work and same thing radio on all day not blaring but really I can clearly hear it. I know it’s not illegal but it totally detracts from my mood and quality of life and have to confine myself indoors. If course it’s always in summer.
I feel at the end of my tether.. this lockdown business and my little dog has cancer and was recently amputated and I just want to cry with it all

Yes, I do hate other people’s loud music and I absolutely feel for you.

I’ve coped by taking control of my actions and thoughts so I don’t feel driven indoors.

DO invest in noise cancelling headphones, they’ve been my life saver. I sometimes use them with my White Noise app on my smartphone.

Maybe you could start a separate thread so people can discuss solutions and ideas?

During this hot weather and lockdown, it’s impossible to escape and can really affect your mental health so I think it deserves a separate thread

Daisymae

Along with a lot of people I expected to see rises in infection when the beaches were crowded, demonstrations etc. It hasn't happened, so I am wondering if it's going to continue, despite what we are doing. I hope so.

I think you may find this interesting, Daisymae. It was quoted on Mumsnet:

Also notably we are not seeing spikes in people who attended protests.

www.wired.com/story/what-minnesotas-protests-are-revealing-about-covid-19-spread/

Leicester has had an increase in new cases, in the last 3 weeks.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-53120589?fbclid=IwAR2xhffwy4axewzBWCn5-rurxU-M69zOtUeEtWwtOQB-zR__id2VPDmF6dk

Thought you may like to see this tongue-in-cheek posting taken from Facebook earlier:
This coronavirus is the strangest virus I've ever heard of. It's very dangerous the way it spreads.
It is so mysterious the way it lurks in schools, but then dies at Home Bargains.
It can wreak havoc in pubs and restaurants! Although it’s mind-boggling how it vanishes at the beach or in the park. Yet, standing to watch a marathon or at a gig or festival triggers its wrath.
It is sneaky. It can spread when buying clothes at Primark but not at Tesco's or Asda.
It is non-alcoholic. It can't spread when you are buying beer.
It lives for 24 hours on Amazon boxes, you must wait 24 hours to touch them but it can't survive on takeaway coffee cups, so enjoying a hot latte is safe.
It is the most curious thing, how it lives on footballs, tennis rackets and ballet bars, but dies on shopping trolleys and food.
It is spread by hair stylists, dog groomers, and dentists, but not by bank machines, cashiers, and fast food workers.
It's so smart. It won’t bother the first 6 people that get together but it knows when the 7th person shows up so be careful if that’s you.
It even knows what you want vs what you need. If you want a massage or your nails done it is very actively on the prowl and not even a mask can stop it. If you need a plumber, it is weak, and a mask will keep it away.
It also seems to be most dangerous after 5:30pm so businesses must start to close before the virus comes out and wreaks havoc upon the populations.
Whoever heard of such a smart sneaky virus?!?

4allweknow I didn't invent the term 'Jockdown'. Us Scots have been called Jocks for aeons. Micks and Taffs etc seem quite friendly too. Did they start being used in the army?

4 or 3 -from what I see going on folk have been making their own levels for weeks and it looks as if it's at 0. Social distancing only outside supermarkets, once inside a shop it's a free for all. Anyone been to a garden centre. Even with one direction arrows people of all ages just doing their own thing. Parks, streets constantly seen young women walking side by side pushing pushchairs having a grand natter. Pubs serving beer to folk standing outside on pavement. Anyone had a cyclist move off a path to let you pass on foot and at a 2 mtr distance? Doubt it. Garden get togethers since May including GPs chasing GC about. Groups of teenagers out and about in cars now with their McDs. The roadside litter has increased already with takeaway cups and the brown McD paper bags. The population is now complacent and every little relaxation of the rules is taken to mean "I'll just do more of what I want to". Hopefully all the experts are wrong and there won't be a resurgence.

Franbern, I love your post about the sneaky virus.
ElizabethAnne I would like some of the statistics that you were talking about. The most potentially toxic children have been in school since start of lockdown. How many cases has that caused?
People have been to protests, raves, crowded on beaches and crammed close to newly opened shops. We need details of how many cases result from that. Easier would be to find how many cases could relate to those journalists desperate to talk to DC. Finding their names and tracking down their contacts and families would be easier than tracing folk on the beach.
My BIL has just been tested for Covid, he hasn’t had the results, but they said it seemed likely and they should both isolate till the results came through. He has been very careful since the start-my sister does the shopping and wipes or sprays everything, so where did it come from?

May I ask those who view lifting restrictions too early exactly who they don't want to go back to work. Doctors,nurses,postmen,dustmen.delivery drivers,supermarket workers etc etc have all been working throughout so why not the rest of the workforce. Nobody is going to make us elderly people go outside if we don't wish to. All those people on beaches and at demonstrations clearly have no problem with isolating so all those could go back. Nobody will be forced to go in pubs and restaurants if they feel unsafe to do so, so they could reopen at once. Seems there are a lot of double standards around and I don't just mean on here.

Jane10 With all manner of racism about now should you be using that term? It's the same with Mick and Taffy, can be taken as derogatory by some. We have to be careful nowadays.

Cava: love and prayers for you and your little dog x

For example:

www.bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/02/a4550302.shtml

There were many others.