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Hard to spread Corvid 19 outside (an OPINION)

(32 Posts)
Namsnanny Fri 03-Jul-20 17:06:52

Thank you Gagajo .... any information puts us all in a better place.

Well you could be generous to the crowds on the beaches janipat as you said, and give them a pass.
But the article still suggest social distancing has a place in the protection against C19 and there wasnt much of that going on!
Silly beggers!

Buffybee Fri 03-Jul-20 17:04:59

And probably Rooks and Magpies too MawB ?
Sorry! Just had to..

lemongrove Fri 03-Jul-20 17:03:30

X posts MawB ?

lemongrove Fri 03-Jul-20 17:03:02

We have loads of corvids flying about here Gaga??

Since all the marches and protests/ packed beaches/ raves we haven’t seen the numbers testing positive falling have we?
It is safer outside but not safe.

MawB Fri 03-Jul-20 17:01:16

Crows would appear safe then

janipat Fri 03-Jul-20 16:47:02

Not sure I'd totally agree with this, but I agree it is less easily spread outdoors than in. If this is true, apart from the appalling mess they left, I suppose it gives a pass to all those who flocked to the beaches when the weather was hot.

GagaJo Fri 03-Jul-20 09:25:57

Link below BUT also copied and pasted. Nice to read something positive for a change.

cliffmass.blogspot.com/2020/06/the-safety-of-outdoor-air-for.html

Tuesday, June 30, 2020

There is now powerful observational evidence that outdoor air is extraordinary safe regarding COVID-19, and the recent protests have helped provide it. The protests/riots began in Seattle and other cities on May 26th. Thousands gathered without social distancing and a good 10% had no masks. They participated in chanting, singing, screaming and other activities that ensured plenty of droplets were injected in the air, and that unhealthful environment was "enhanced" by coughing from tear gas and other agents.

Did this huge exposure result in increased spread of COVID-19? The answer is clearly no.

Consider Washington's King County, a hotbed of protests starting 26 May (see below). Both hospitalizations and deaths showed no upward spike after the protests (the blue line shows May 26th). We should have seen a signal by now, since the average time to symptoms is approximately five days.

It is important to note that the number of COVID-19 cases is going up modestly in King County, but that is being driven by a near doubling of tests (note that the bottom graph starts earlier). Much of the media neglects to note the importance of increased testing in finding more cases.

This lack of a coronavirus spike has been noted in every major city in the U.S., something discussed in the Seattle Times today and in many media outlets.

These are huge number of independent experiments in varying environments and climates. A very good sample. And the obvious conclusion is that COVID-19 has a very difficult time spreading in outdoor air. There is no other explanation.

Some of you might argue that many of the protestors were young and so would not get very ill. True enough. But young people can get sick from it and they could certainly give it to their parents, neighbors, and folks in food stores and restaurants. There were plenty of teenagers and folks in their early 20s still living at home who were at the protests.

You want more evidence? No problem. About a month ago, there was a huge media commotion about "irresponsible" outdoor parties at Missouri's Lake of the Ozarks. Several media outlets promised a huge uptick in COVID-19 cases.

What actually happened? Nothing. No spike of COVID-19 cases in the neighboring counties. Outdoor air is safe.