Exciting news about a vaccine?

That’s good, B9Exchange! I thought being older might rule me out, but of course, older and vulnerable people are exactly the ones they most urgently want the vaccine for.

A friend in London had a trial vaccine a few weeks ago. She’s having a blood test soon to see if she has antibodies. ? Nothing untoward happened to her after the jab, her head didn’t explode and she still had all her limbs. ?

I would be willing to volunteer, but am in the middle of a house sale so do not want to risk being unwell at a critical moment.

SueDonim they came back to me and I am signed up. I feel it is my duty, they need older volunteers, as well as those with pre existing conditions, in order to make sure it works for everyone. I don't believe any side effects have come to light on the 10,000 who had had it so far, but in the unlikely event of having more than a sore arm, then it would be worth it to help everyone else be safe.

Just read this morning that -

'Addressing the Commons’ health committee on Tuesday, Prof Sir Jeremy Farrar said that even with the potential development of a vaccine, humanity was likely to be living with Covid-19 for "decades". Farrar, who sits on the government advisory body Sage, added: "Things will not be done by Christmas. This infection is not going away, it's now a human endemic infection."

Don't want to appear a pessimist but there is a very long way to go yet. Also, as and when, we will have no idea of long term side effects

I’ve signed up to two schemes that have requested volunteers for vaccine trials. There’s no guarantee I’ll be included but I’m willing to take one for the team in the hope that it will help bring an end to this awful illness. Even the anti-vaxxers will benefit from the herd immunity if we can get a vaccine.

I reckon that other people over the years have put their faith in scientists and doctors and been guinea pigs, so why not me?

The government and the media are on a roll to give us any good news that they can find, but I think the scientists would prefer to be more low key. They are under enormous pressure to come up with a 'game changer' as soon as possible and there are are news items about the various vaccine trials nearly every day which feed into all our hopes and anxieties about the future. But most of the scientists have said that the trials are being rushed through much more quickly than usual, and this worries me. Can it be properly tested and the side affects monitored and assessed adequately in a few months? My instincts are telling me to be only very cautiously optimistic and not to believe all the hype.

JenniferEccles

It is very encouraging news but even if everything is fine and the vaccine becomes available, it is feared that there may be a certain number of people who will refuse it.

I’m sure we have all read about those really harmful internet sites promoting the anti-vaccine brigade, who are vehemently against any form of vaccination and if their numbers grow we won’t have enough people protected to provide the herd immunity effect.

I am very pro vaccine, but I do worry about a vaccination that obviously has no known long term potential side effects.

It won’t just be anti vaxxers refusing a rushed through vaccination

I think it is brilliant news. Well done, scientists.

BlueBelle There is research on why some people are worse affected than others and there are already some answers. However, it will be years before there's a full picture and, even then, there will be issues about identifying the people at risk.

My daughter's partner is a project manager for one of the research teams, so I know a little bit about what's being uncovered. However, science isn't a quick fix. It's extremely rare to have a genuine "Eureka" moment and hypotheses need to be tested and confirmed.

Such wonderful news a light at the end of the tunnel at last.I think everyone should be vaccinated in order to eradicate this fateful virus, which will be around for years otherwise. Very proud of the Brits and the Swedes (I live here) for this breakthrough,well done everyone.

Why am I not excited I don’t know but I really don’t think it’s going to be that easy, suddenly after years of trying to find any kind of help for the common cold which belongs to The same Corona virus Suddenly after four months we have this miracle vaccine that is going to be a world saver
I truely hope it is the answer, but excited, no not in the least

I am more pleased to know they have some research that shows there are medicines that will shorten and help recovery
I think a lot more research needs to be done on why some people are dealt badly with CV and others not at all, and does it produce antibodies that at least lesson subsequent attacks

Listening to a doctor on radio this a.m being asked if she would be prepared to be part of this vaccine’s trials and her answer was ‘I d consider it’ which didn’t inspire confidence
I m not an idiot but I won’t be first in the queue to get the vaccine we ll have ti see how it goes

It sounds promising if still months away. With pre existing conditions neither of us think there is enough known yet to volunteer for the test programme. Something I’m sad about. Once a vaccine is generally available I don’t see acceptance or otherwise as a one size fits all decision. Working in the NHS swine flu vaccination was encouraged, I accepted and was fortunate, unlike callistemon I had no adverse reaction. Everyone must make their own decision and will be free to do so. If offered a vaccine we will make individual risk assessments after reading all the information we can get our hands on and seeking medical advice if it seems appropriate. I believe progress on a vaccine can only be a positive thing.

Damn and blast it! Copied the wrong link and led myself straight back here! Final attempt then -

theconversation.com/coronavirus-b-cells-and-t-cells-explained-141888?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Latest%20from%20The%20Conversation%20for%20July%2021%202020%20-%201683016235&utm_content=Latest%20from%20The%20Conversation%20for%20July%2021%202020%20-%201683016235+CID_23815101fddf9e445434f3c818cc1169&utm_source=campaign_monitor_uk&utm_term=Coronavirus%20B%20cells%20and%20T%20cells%20explained

Oops, sorry, my links don’t seem to have worked! Will try again ...

theconversation.com/oxford-immunologist-on-coronavirus-vaccine-our-early-results-look-highly-promising-141558

www.gransnet.com/forums/coronavirus/1282050-Exciting-news-about-a-vaccine?msgid=28071125

Here’s a science-type of explanation about the virus, written so that folk like me can understand it.

theconversation.com/oxford-immunologist-on-coronavirus-vaccine-our-early-results-look-highly-promising-141558

And another paper e planning what T-Cells and such like do

theconversation.com/coronavirus-b-cells-and-t-cells-explained-141888?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Latest%20from%20The%20Conversation%20for%20July%2021%202020%20-%201683016235&utm_content=Latest%20from%20The%20Conversation%20for%20July%2021%202020%20-%201683016235+CID_23815101fddf9e445434f3c818cc1169&utm_source=campaign_monitor_uk&utm_term=Coronavirus%20B%20cells%20and%20T%20cells%20explained

Like a few others, I shall not be rushing to have one until it has been properly tested, especially as there appears to be some controversy as to it's reactions if taking a flu vaccination?
Let's see what infolds?
As it stands a recent poll showed that as high as 25% would refuse a Covid vaccine!

The vaccine for swine flu (H1N1) caused a lot of problems in some people.

Swine flu vaccine 'link' to 'deadly' nerve condition
A study has indicated that people who received a version of the H1N1 influenza vaccine were at significantly increased risk of developing Guillain-Barré syndrome in the four weeks following vaccination.

NHS Website Thursday 12 July 2012

I know that I was ill for several days after having the H1N1 vaccination.

Franbern, you are clearly unaware of some of the vaccine disasters to suggest, let alone believe that people who decide not to be vaccinated, are idiots.

I too have the annual flu jab, which changes each year, but I will be concerned about this new virus if it is offered. As far as I'm aware, these vaccines are being tested successfully on healthy individuals, and are considered to be safe.

What about if you have complex pre existing conditions? Is it a live vaccine? Does it have interactions with other medications? These are just a few of many questions that I would want answered before I made a decision as to have the vaccine or not.

It takes many years under normal circumstances for vaccines to be passed for human use, I would
be concerned that all the usual checks have not been carried out.

I'm sure I won't be alone in having concerns, and equally sure that people will group together and there will be campaigns to try to persuade people TO be vaccinated and others trying to persuade people NOT TO accept the vaccine. Like many I will listen to both analyse the information then make a decision.

An idiot? No I don't think so!

I am keeping my fingers crossed that this will be successful. It sounds promising. I hope enough younger people have the vaccine, if it becomes available, because they are apparently more effective in young ones and that helps to build herd immunity.

Me too Jilly.

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biba
It’s not the government who are developing any of the vaccines against Covid19. Apparently eighty plus vaccines are in development in different countries all over the world, with 23 already being trialled. The Oxford vaccine is one of two front runners. Do you not trust these brilliant scientists who have pulled out all the stops to try to develop a vaccine?

It is very encouraging - all we can do now is wait and see.

I have always been pro vaccinations. But I am afraid I do not trust this Goverment at all - and really am not sure if I shall be having it- for the first time ever.