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Dido says that no-one prediced the rise in requests for testing. Really?

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Trisha57 Thu 17-Sep-20 22:25:06

Just listened to Dido on the news. Can't beliieve that, with schools and workplaces going back to near "normal", restictions being relieved overall and pubs and restauraunts being reopend that no-one in Government predicted the rise in requwst for tests. Can this government not use their common sense and make plans in time?!

trisher Fri 18-Sep-20 12:03:15

Should we have a new law- Boris's Law of Preserving your Image- "Only appoint to positions of authority those you know are less competent than you".

Callistemon Fri 18-Sep-20 12:09:09

Daisymae

Lucca - surely people can just book adjoining tables? People could at least wave at each other.

I thought mingling would be old-fashioned hugging and air kissing (so passé now).
Or something like dancing Strip the Willow! Very mingled.

Shouting across to a table 3 metres away is not what I'd call mingling.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 18-Sep-20 12:12:14

You mustn’t shout??? aerosol!!

Callistemon Fri 18-Sep-20 12:57:44

Oh dear.

I could whisper loudly.

Semaphore?

growstuff Fri 18-Sep-20 13:17:25

Callistemon

Oh dear.

I could whisper loudly.

Semaphore?

Mobile phone?

GillT57 Fri 18-Sep-20 13:57:50

Why do companies like Serco keep getting awarded contracts when they fail time after time after time? Could it be because they pay minimum wage to poorly trained staff? Could it be because the CEO is Rupert Soames?

suziewoozie Fri 18-Sep-20 14:17:06

Gill could it be because the aim is complete privatisation of the NHS?

growstuff Fri 18-Sep-20 14:21:36

suziewoozie

Gill could it be because the aim is complete privatisation of the NHS?

I'm afraid I'm not giving you a Sherlock Holmes Award for detection for guessing that. wink

It's already happening under our noses. I wonder how any people realise how many organisations carrying the NHS logo aren't operated by the NHS at all. GP surgeries will be the next to go. Babylon Health have already started.

M0nica Fri 18-Sep-20 14:45:55

Trisher you think you may be joking but I have seen this seriously discussed, Boris's deliberate habit of appointing people less able than him to jobs around him so that he can shine - except of course, if everyone around you is not up to the job. Their failures reflect your incompetence, that you appointed them. hence the number of people in cabinet with sloping shoulders, 'whatever it is it is not my fault its him/her over there.'

trisher Fri 18-Sep-20 20:03:59

M0nica if it wasn't so dreadful it might be funny.

varian Fri 18-Sep-20 20:41:36

But is it Boris who makes these appointments?

Cummings spent three years in Russia and all of his subsequent actions seem to be tailored to advance Putin's agenda of weakening the West, firstly by taking the UK out of the EU, then by destroying the UK by promoting incompetent politicians and their brexit friends, no matter how unqualified to positions which they are obviously unable to fulfill.

What hold does this man have on Boris Johnson?

suziewoozie Fri 18-Sep-20 21:30:28

I agree varian Johnson makes no decisions at all but we are all supposed to pretend he is PM ????

suziewoozie Fri 18-Sep-20 21:39:44

???

Lucca Fri 18-Sep-20 22:05:40

I posted this on another thread but I’ll do it again

suziewoozie Fri 18-Sep-20 22:18:47

Do we laugh or sob?

Curlygirl Fri 18-Sep-20 22:32:02

I don’t understand why Dominic Cummings carries such power. Sadly enough poor misguided souls voted Johnson, Hancock and co into power but Dominic Cummings was never voted for. Is he part of the Civil Service or just appointed by Boris Johnson. It is one thing to have an advisor but he seems to be the person calling the tune. At times like this as in the Second World War we need a coalition government to ensure the decisions that are made are not politically motivated.

growstuff Fri 18-Sep-20 22:37:40

He's not part of the civil service. He's a special advisor appointed by Johnson.

suziewoozie Fri 18-Sep-20 22:44:46

He’s paid by us

MaizieD Fri 18-Sep-20 22:47:26

Cummings knows where the bodies ate buried...

suziewoozie Fri 18-Sep-20 22:59:49

So he should, he buried most of them ?

MayBee70 Fri 18-Sep-20 23:26:51

varian

But is it Boris who makes these appointments?

Cummings spent three years in Russia and all of his subsequent actions seem to be tailored to advance Putin's agenda of weakening the West, firstly by taking the UK out of the EU, then by destroying the UK by promoting incompetent politicians and their brexit friends, no matter how unqualified to positions which they are obviously unable to fulfill.

What hold does this man have on Boris Johnson?

varian: I just can’t understand why there are no questions asked about Cummings time in Russia.

Hetty58 Fri 18-Sep-20 23:37:02

Furret:

'What matters, the only thing that matters, is that less people die.'

Yes, of course, that's what matters to us. The government, though? Will they be devastated at the loss of pensioners, the disabled and poorly? Think on.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 19-Sep-20 07:11:33

Extract from Marina Hyde’s article

Still, here she comes again – Dido Queen of Carnage, on hand to gloss the havoc. As she put it: “I don’t think anybody was expecting to see the really sizeable increase in demand that we’ve seen over the course of the last few weeks.” But Dido: they literally were.

At least Harding is visible. Huge amounts of the malfunctioning system are now being run – badly – by unaccountable figures. Take firms like Deloitte, which ran logistics at the testing site at what we might call Chessington World of Misadventures. Hospitals felt forced to ask to take it over after the results of NHS staff were serially lost or misdirected. The pile of 2020 sentences I never expected to type is now Earth’s tallest structure, but let’s add another one: “NHS commandeers Vampire Ride from accountancy firm charged with controlling spread of deadly pandemic.” (Seriously, stick a fork in me. I’m done.)

While Harding was defending the barely functional testing system, Jacob Rees-Mogg was telling the Commons that “instead of this endless carping saying it’s difficult to get [tests], we should be celebrating this phenomenal success of the British nation”. To which the only possible reply is four-lettered.

His own ma and pa clearly hopelessly overindulged Jacob Rees-Mogg, but millions of other parents just will not feel minded to take it from this rejected Charlie and the Chocolate Factory character. If there were any justice, Jacob would have been stretched into a mile-long liquorice lace by vigilante Oompa-Loompas as they sang one of their trademark cautionary songs.

Instead, he is somehow leader of the House of Commons. There, he speaks of what ordinary people “should” be doing – with the air of a man who knows that if any of the Mogg progeny are sent home from school with a possible Covid symptom, it’s not going to be him taking time off work to homeschool them and wait for a test spot to open up in Manchester a week on Friday.

There is zero uncertainty about childcare and loss of earnings in the Rees-Mogg household, where even the adults still have nannies. (At the age of 51, Jacob retains the live-in childcare professional who was – formerly? – responsible for wiping his backside.)

Yet again, the overriding impression is of a government run by men for whom the domestic sphere is a mystery they have no wish to get to the bottom of. One of them driving hundreds of miles to Durham – just in case he got ill and still had to do his own childcare – sounds, to the other guys, like a totally reasonable thing to have done. Meanwhile the big boss fails to be meaningfully involved in the lives of between 17% and 29% of his children (awaiting full data). If you can be persuaded it’s normal to drive a 60-mile round trip with a child in the car to test your eyesight, then naturally you believe parents should think it fine to stick a five-year-old in their own vehicle and travel 400 miles to obtain what’s necessary to get the child back to school and them back to work.

Either way, of course a government run by weirdo elitists didn’t reflexively foresee that September – back to school, back to offices – was going to mean a huge surge in testing demand. This is the trouble when “hardworking families” is merely a demographic you wish to appeal to, as opposed to who you are. Real-life “hardworking families” could have told you in a heartbeat that September was the main event. THEY could have predicted it. Because unless someone else does it all for you, huge amounts of parenting are about thinking ahead, planning, creating yet another routine that keeps the whole precarious show on the road – the endless foresight of it all.

Only this week Dominic Cummings was pictured slouching through the Downing Street gates carrying some archive letter written by US general Bernard Shriever, pushing for continued investment in ballistic weapons technology. Cummings should hang around the school gates instead, where any amount of mothers who’ve seen all this shit before and didn’t have time for it back then would be able to enlighten him in the simplest possible terms. Namely: Hey squidbrain, I’ve got some “data” for you! Mind if I “special advise” you with it, only I don’t have a window to put it in a 20,000-word blog? OK, here goes: I don’t WANT you to build me a fricking missile defence shield, I don’t CARE about the Manhattan Project, I think all your reading recommendations REEK of the business section of the airport bookshop, and I’m NOT going to be accused of “carping” by guys who’d have a nervo if they had to change a nappy.

You know what I want? A SWAB WITHIN A THIRTY-MILE RADIUS, YESTERDAY. Now spad THAT, genius.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/18/matt-hancock-test-and-trace-dido-harding

Lucca Sat 19-Sep-20 07:36:32

Great article. Nail firmly on head.

Luckygirl Sat 19-Sep-20 09:24:42

Spad as a verb - that is good! Like it smile