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MawB2 Sat 19-Sept-20 10:07:35

I might have hoped that our “more intelligent” teenagers - tomorrow’s professionals or captains of industry might have shown some basic common sense, but what I am reading and hearing these days makes my heart sink
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/film-night-or-fat-sesh-unrepentant-students-choose-to-party-on-jh6d95zg2?shareToken=0d566f9f71b3598df043e1f19951252d

A complete disregard for any sort of social distancing or face coverings, a complete disregard for regulations about socialising - just a selfish “Me, me, me, Party, party, party” attitude with scant regard for the law. Is this what they bleated about when their A levels were cancelled?
Fine. Let them infect each other if they feel immune, but stop them leaving their ivory towers to spread the virus to the rest of the population.
Their parents are not forking out thousands of £££ every year for them to party like there’s no tomorrow.
And no, I am not a grinch, I do appreciate youthful high spirits but the extreme selfishness of many (not to say their understanding of the primary rationale of a university education) saddens me.

merlotgran Sat 19-Sept-20 14:05:38

Galaxy

Every single person on my street, all over 60 are ignoring social distancing. Without exception.

I'm beginning to think I must mix with a better class of granny! grin

Callistemon Sat 19-Sept-20 13:10:11

I'm surprised you didn't know that, actually as you are such a fount of knowledge.

Callistemon Sat 19-Sept-20 13:09:18

You seem to despise older people very much, growstuff.
If luck is on your side you may yourself be one of that generation one day.

You may find the that they differ in personality, habits, as much as do younger generations.

growstuff Sat 19-Sept-20 13:06:07

Yeah! It's horrendous! 28,000 Conservative majority, one of the lowest areas in deprivation tables and loads of oldies with disposable income to spend on booze (when they're not in their holiday home). grin

Galaxy Sat 19-Sept-20 13:05:14

And to be honest why should young people put their lives on hold for those who call them selfish entitled etc etc

Callistemon Sat 19-Sept-20 13:04:57

Whitewavemark2

Yes and here, if you pass pubs particularly in the middle of the day full of oaps.

Wetherspoons is particularly popular with older folk.

But is Wetherspoons etc sticking to the rules?

Callistemon Sat 19-Sept-20 13:03:45

Growstuff I honestly don’t know any older people who go out to bars, they all get happily and fairly quietly sloshed at home!
grin
Sometimes even in the garden!
But be careful, Oopsadaisy there was a thread where a poster was told she was drinking far too much after a g&t and one wine.

I don't know anyone who has been to a pub except for a meal in a permitted family group where the establishment adhered to strict rules.

You should see some of the pubs and cafes round here. There are plenty of sloshed people in their twilight years. And if they're getting sloshed within four enclosed walls with other people, it's more dangerous than getting sloshed in a field at a rave
I do feel sorry for some people who must live in very dodgy areas.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 19-Sept-20 13:03:04

Yes and here, if you pass pubs particularly in the middle of the day full of oaps.

Wetherspoons is particularly popular with older folk.

growstuff Sat 19-Sept-20 12:58:42

Oopsadaisy4

Growstuff I honestly don’t know any older people who go out to bars, they all get happily and fairly quietly sloshed at home!

And the interviewer didn’t speak to any older people, maybe they had all gone home to bed?

You should see some of the pubs and cafes round here. There are plenty of sloshed people in their twilight years. And if they're getting sloshed within four enclosed walls with other people, it's more dangerous than getting sloshed in a field at a rave.

Oopsadaisy4 Sat 19-Sept-20 12:54:48

Growstuff I honestly don’t know any older people who go out to bars, they all get happily and fairly quietly sloshed at home!

And the interviewer didn’t speak to any older people, maybe they had all gone home to bed?

Galaxy Sat 19-Sept-20 12:51:29

Every single person on my street, all over 60 are ignoring social distancing. Without exception.

merlotgran Sat 19-Sept-20 12:48:36

Maybe their grannies could start by setting a good example.

I don't know of one single granny who hasn't.

Callistemon Sat 19-Sept-20 12:47:51

merlotgran

Not all teenagers are selfish irresponsible idiots. I feel sorry for the parents of those who have behaved sensibly during the easing of Lockdown but now will now worry about them and can only hope they will continue to be safe.

I agree, merlogran

Some posters are trying to bring inter-generational conflict into this.
I don't have anyone that age but I think I'd be worried sick about any young relative of mine partying and binge drinking until they lost all inhibitions, even more so at the present time.

Many of us went to university or college, have children who did and some may have grandchildren who do and the drinking culture has got far worse over the years.

growstuff Sat 19-Sept-20 12:44:31

Oopsadaisy4

They were interviewing some young people on TV this morning Regarding the bars closing at 10pm, they all just laughed and said that they would start drinking earlier in the day, or even at lunchtime.

Makes your heart sink doesn’t it.

They'd probably get the same response if they'd interviewed old people.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 19-Sept-20 12:44:08

Universities are going to be just like the cruise liners. Massive Petri dishes.

We have 2 universities, 1 art college and various others in our city. At the moment we are better off than many other areas. Just watch it spiral out of control in October/November.

growstuff Sat 19-Sept-20 12:43:31

merlotgran

I fear it will take a major outbreak amongst the young to change their attitude and even then it might not.

DH and I have often said that if Covid targeted children and young adults in the way Spanish 'flu' did, our age group would be beside ourselves with worry and do everything in our power to protect them.

Sadly it doesn't seem to work the other way round.

Maybe their grannies could start by setting a good example.

growstuff Sat 19-Sept-20 12:42:59

Hundreds of thousands of new students face the prospect of being locked down with people they don’t know, in towns and cities they’re unfamiliar with, far from their homes and support mechanisms and it seems nobody gives a damn about the mental health implications.

I'm appalled by some of the bigoted comments on here.

merlotgran Sat 19-Sept-20 12:39:59

I fear it will take a major outbreak amongst the young to change their attitude and even then it might not.

DH and I have often said that if Covid targeted children and young adults in the way Spanish 'flu' did, our age group would be beside ourselves with worry and do everything in our power to protect them.

Sadly it doesn't seem to work the other way round.

winterwhite Sat 19-Sept-20 12:39:28

Well said Growstuff about intergenerational conflict.

I'm not sure what you mean, OP, by 'there will surely be more'? What we're seeing is the boisterous reunion of the young who haven't seen their friends or had any certainty for 6 months. Isn't it just as likely to die down?

Callistemon Sat 19-Sept-20 12:33:21

growstuff perhaps some of us old grouches might have hoped that they would have a re-think about Freshers Week under the circumstances, which had become just an excuse for binge drinking resulting in illness and death.

Oopsadaisy4 Sat 19-Sept-20 12:29:40

They were interviewing some young people on TV this morning Regarding the bars closing at 10pm, they all just laughed and said that they would start drinking earlier in the day, or even at lunchtime.

Makes your heart sink doesn’t it.

Callistemon Sat 19-Sept-20 12:26:55

Mawb2 a friend phoned last week and said she was in despair at the attitude of her normally sensible granddaughter who has just gone off to university and is partying like mad.

growstuff Sat 19-Sept-20 11:30:09

MawB2

Of course they are not all totally selfish any more than our generation is totally racist/wasteful of the planets resources/Brexit voting/compulsive knitters.
But- and it is a big but- this is an example - there will surely be more.

I'm sure there will be, as there most certainly are racist/wasteful of the planets resources/Brexit voting/compulsive knitting GNers.

What's the point of generational conflict?

growstuff Sat 19-Sept-20 11:25:38

Missfoodlove

If any of my children were due to start university this year then I would implore them to defer a year.
We t is high risk, high cost and I doubt they will get the education they are paying for.

My two who went to uni here both got freshers flu.... imagine how C19 will spread, then of course they will try and get home to be cared for which is only natural.

A big NO from me.

I talked about deferring with my son. He's already had a bad deal, as he's hardly had any face-to-face teaching since January. He's not very sociable and is fine with online lectures and spending his time reading, although I feel he's missing out on an important part of being away from home with like-minded people.

His paternal grandmother has paid for him to rent a self-contained one-bedroom flat, so that he doesn't have to share a household, so I'm not too concerned about his safety.

MawB2 Sat 19-Sept-20 11:20:20

Of course they are not all totally selfish any more than our generation is totally racist/wasteful of the planets resources/Brexit voting/compulsive knitters.
But- and it is a big but- this is an example - there will surely be more.