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MawB2 Sat 19-Sep-20 10:07:35

I might have hoped that our “more intelligent” teenagers - tomorrow’s professionals or captains of industry might have shown some basic common sense, but what I am reading and hearing these days makes my heart sink
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/film-night-or-fat-sesh-unrepentant-students-choose-to-party-on-jh6d95zg2?shareToken=0d566f9f71b3598df043e1f19951252d

A complete disregard for any sort of social distancing or face coverings, a complete disregard for regulations about socialising - just a selfish “Me, me, me, Party, party, party” attitude with scant regard for the law. Is this what they bleated about when their A levels were cancelled?
Fine. Let them infect each other if they feel immune, but stop them leaving their ivory towers to spread the virus to the rest of the population.
Their parents are not forking out thousands of £££ every year for them to party like there’s no tomorrow.
And no, I am not a grinch, I do appreciate youthful high spirits but the extreme selfishness of many (not to say their understanding of the primary rationale of a university education) saddens me.

Summerlove Mon 21-Sep-20 03:03:03

Callistemon

^How about some solidarity?^

loads of oldies with disposable income to spend on booze (when they're not in their holiday home)
Maybe their grannies could start by setting a good example.

Solidarity would be good, wouldn't it, not intergenerational conflict.

Wouldn’t it just.

Maybe you could start? Assuming posters who see different things than you are “younger” (with a definite attitude towards it- true or not!) would be a great first step

growstuff Sat 19-Sep-20 22:47:08

PS. I was being ironic. I just wish people would look at themselves before they start blaming others.

growstuff Sat 19-Sep-20 22:46:07

Callistemon

^How about some solidarity?^

loads of oldies with disposable income to spend on booze (when they're not in their holiday home)
Maybe their grannies could start by setting a good example.

Solidarity would be good, wouldn't it, not intergenerational conflict.

Yes smile

Not inter-generational, cultural, North vs South or anything else.

It's quite sad how it's descended into divisive bickering and blaming.

growstuff Sat 19-Sep-20 22:44:05

It appears that there's a resident of Bolton who's not very popular. I have no idea if he's a student, but he went on a pub crawl after failing to quarantine after returning from holiday.

Interestingly, the local knuckle draggers initially tried to blame the Bolton spike and lockdown on Asians.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/bolton-coronavirus-holiday-man-pub-crawl-blamed-for-spike_uk_5f66006ac5b6480e896f7549

Callistemon Sat 19-Sep-20 22:43:49

How about some solidarity?

loads of oldies with disposable income to spend on booze (when they're not in their holiday home)
Maybe their grannies could start by setting a good example.

Solidarity would be good, wouldn't it, not intergenerational conflict.

Galaxy Sat 19-Sep-20 22:16:50

Yes I spent quite a lot of time playing spot the female when the BNP (or whatever they are calling themselves these days) protests were going on.

growstuff Sat 19-Sep-20 22:11:09

Callistemon

^They are of all ages.^
Yes, there are idiots or selfish people in all generations.

However, I am rather confused that a forum which is mainly for older people is being taken over by younger people whose aim seems to be to castigate the older generation.

I'm not a younger person by any means. However, I dislike hypocrisy and smugness, whoever perpetuates it. I also dislike division, blame cultures and parochialism. How about some solidarity?

growstuff Sat 19-Sep-20 22:07:54

Callistemon

^Every younger person and children all were. Interesting, isn’t it?^

How odd.
All the older, rule-defying people seem to live in the areas where these young Gransnetters live!
And all the perfect young people live in those areas too.

There are rule breakers in every generation.

Maybe there are opportunities for Specsavers! hmm

growstuff Sat 19-Sep-20 22:07:03

This is a photo from today's anti-mask/anti-vaxx/covid is a hoax/anti George Soros/pro conspiracy theory demo in Trafalgar Square today.

Let's play "spot the student". If you get bored with that, you could play "spot the female".

Callistemon Sat 19-Sep-20 21:59:12

Every younger person and children all were. Interesting, isn’t it?

How odd.
All the older, rule-defying people seem to live in the areas where these young Gransnetters live!
And all the perfect young people live in those areas too.

There are rule breakers in every generation.

Callistemon Sat 19-Sep-20 21:54:32

They are of all ages.
Yes, there are idiots or selfish people in all generations.

However, I am rather confused that a forum which is mainly for older people is being taken over by younger people whose aim seems to be to castigate the older generation.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 19-Sep-20 18:16:14

I suggest that there isn’t one age group who are acting foolishly.

Today in Trafalgar Square hundreds and hundreds of people protesting against the covid measures.

Not a single one social distancing or wearing a mask.

They are of all ages.

Summerlove Sat 19-Sep-20 17:23:43

merlotgran

^Maybe their grannies could start by setting a good example.^

I don't know of one single granny who hasn't.

Aren’t you lucky then.

Out shopping today I came across many older people not wearing masks.

Every younger person and children all were. Interesting, isn’t it?

Galaxy Sat 19-Sep-20 17:11:17

I dont hold those kind of views about young people at university either Maw B.

MawB2 Sat 19-Sep-20 17:05:56

Galaxy

Callistemon this is a thread dedicated to criticising young people , I am not the one who started a thread criticising old people. I am on MN as well if it helps.

No it is not Galaxy
It was aimed at a group of university students who may or may not be typical of others of their generation
I have not said anything about the young working population, Carers, nurses, shop assistants, hospitality staff, manual workers etc etc all of whom may find they haven’t got a job for much longer unless we can control the spread of the virus.
So don’t twist my words or read the flipping article.

AGAA4 Sat 19-Sep-20 16:59:31

There are people in all age groups who don't follow the rules. Many of my age group, mid 70s are very aware that Covid could be serious for us so there are more reasons for us to keep ourselves safe.
Teenagers know that they are unlikely to become very ill and understandably may be less cautious. My teenage grandchildren say they are not too worried about Covid but would not want to give it to older people.

merlotgran Sat 19-Sep-20 16:42:06

Not a lot of social distancing going on in Trafalgar Square at the moment.

Something else to despair about. hmm

Galaxy Sat 19-Sep-20 15:31:41

Callistemon this is a thread dedicated to criticising young people , I am not the one who started a thread criticising old people. I am on MN as well if it helps.

Doodledog Sat 19-Sep-20 15:29:23

I worked in a University for decades, and still do on an occasional basis, and can honestly say that the drinking culture was far worse in my own student days than it is now. There is a greater tolerance of those with cultural reasons not to drink, and a corresponding rise in the number of events held on non-licensed premises. There is also a rise in the number of health-conscious young people who are more likely to go to the gym after lectures than to the SU bar.

Nevertheless, of course there will be exuberance and parties, and all the things that young people will want to do - it's nature's way. Selfish? I don't know.

The measures being taken on campuses regarding social distancing, cleaning etc will make the University buildings as safe as workplaces, so that leaves Halls of Residence and privately rented accommodation. My guess is that in the Halls there will be rules about distancing - there were rules over the summer about keeping to one person at a time in the kitchen and so on - and in rented flats it will be up to the students themselves to regulate. I have no reason to think that they will do so any less scrupulously than others of their age - why would they?

They are learning to become adults without parental guidance, and yes, they will make mistakes, but on the whole, young people are no less responsible than older ones. Please let's stop stereotyping one another?

MawB2 Sat 19-Sep-20 15:13:47

merlotgran

Galaxy

Every single person on my street, all over 60 are ignoring social distancing. Without exception.

I'm beginning to think I must mix with a better class of granny! grin

grin
Party time round Galaxy’s it seems

In our village likewise, 4 of us have been known to go to our local garden centre (separate cars) to have a coffee and a tea cake together at one of the outside tables.
Rebels!

Callistemon Sat 19-Sep-20 14:33:37

Yes, keep away from those dreadful old people.

It puzzles me why younger people want to join Gransnet and not be with those eminently sensible Mumsnetters.
There seem to be more younger than older people on GN these days.
And many don't seem to like older people very much.

Galaxy Sat 19-Sep-20 14:09:37

I am not over 60 and I social distance grin

Callistemon Sat 19-Sep-20 14:08:26

Every single person on my street, all over 60 are ignoring social distancing. Without exception.

Without exception

Galaxy Sat 19-Sep-20 14:07:35

Which number?

Callistemon Sat 19-Sep-20 14:06:39

Do you include yourself in that number, Galaxy?