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Boris Broadcast to the Country

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Curlygirl Tue 22-Sept-20 20:15:58

Why did he bother? Usual amount of waffle and no clear directives. Why doesn’t he quit if he can’t deal with this competently and let somebody more more capable take over. But who?

Furret Wed 23-Sept-20 10:21:59

Toadinthehole

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again....all you Boris bashers, find us someone who IS competent then.

Sadly we are stuck with him or his ‘Z’ list cabinet for the time being. All those experienced MPs from his party are banished to the back benches because they were not ‘yes’ men or women.

That is the system. We are stuck with him

Toadinthehole Wed 23-Sept-20 10:20:13

I agree Alegrias, but I’m saying I don’t think it would matter who was PM, they’d get criticised. This is all so hard for anybody. I’m not a Conservative voter per se, but so many people just seem to be personally insulting Boris, as if his hair and hands would have any bearing on how he does/ doesn’t perform as a Prime Minister.

Granny23 Wed 23-Sept-20 10:19:22

www.facebook.com/JamesJDart/videos/315557016351887

Parsley3 Wed 23-Sept-20 10:17:26

The PMs message was clear. “ A stitch in time saves nine”. Dominic Raab has just repeated this on BBC news in case we didn’t hear it yesterday. Ever onward.

Alegrias Wed 23-Sept-20 10:10:18

I'll be flippant, as that seems to be the order of the day.

Over on Mumsnet this morning, there was a thread asking which of the PMs of the last 40 years they would like to have in charge now. Some said Johnson, as is their prerogative. But one had a list of all of the PMs since 1979, then Larry the Cat, then Johnson at the end.

He was voted in as PM. I don't care what he looks like or what his personal life is like, but I want him to be a good PM. But so far, he has shown himself to be incapable. If you take on the role of PM, expect some criticism for your performance.

DiscoDancer1975 Wed 23-Sept-20 09:59:02

“ It’s all gone quiet”, said Rhubarb. “ Too quiet”, said Custard! I too would be interested to see who people pick Toad?

Gwyneth Wed 23-Sept-20 09:51:39

Could one, or all of the posters who clearly have absolutely nothing to contribute other than personal comments about the PM start a thread of their own please? Maybe they could call it ‘Boris Bashing’ and then they could make personal comments about his hair, hands, family or whatever ‘floats their boat’ to their ‘hearts content’ and not bore us with the same inane comments over and over again.Then at least those of us who want to discuss the content of the speech could do so. Many threads on this site seem to be hi-jacked by the ‘Boris Bashers’ which stops ‘open minded’ and objective discussion taking place. I will also repeat what I said in an earlier post I do not have any political allegiance. I’m guessing though that had this exact same broadcast been given by Starmer it would have received a far more positive response.

Ellianne Wed 23-Sept-20 09:49:58

Alegrias

Well thanks for your editorial view Elianne, I'm sure the OP will be happy to learn that her thread was a non-starter.

Maybe its a flippant approach to politics that has got us in this mess.

Oh dear
sad

Toadinthehole Wed 23-Sept-20 09:49:54

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again....all you Boris bashers, find us someone who IS competent then.

Alegrias Wed 23-Sept-20 09:46:38

Well thanks for your editorial view Elianne, I'm sure the OP will be happy to learn that her thread was a non-starter.

Maybe its a flippant approach to politics that has got us in this mess.

Ellianne Wed 23-Sept-20 09:41:49

Alegrias

See what I mean about the dog being a distraction?

Any more comments actually about our Prime Minister's suitability for the post or ability to lead the nation?

Can't be helped, Alegrias, it's because the whole thread and its ensuing comments were a non starter.
I wouldn't dare to be so flippant on the heavy political threads!

Ellianne Wed 23-Sept-20 09:39:06

LadyGracie

Try watching Mark Drakeford, Wales First Minister.

That guy was very boring LadyGracie, bring back Neil Kinnock!

Shhhhh Dylin is from the South Wales valleys too!!!

Alegrias Wed 23-Sept-20 09:37:30

See what I mean about the dog being a distraction?

Any more comments actually about our Prime Minister's suitability for the post or ability to lead the nation?

LadyGracie Wed 23-Sept-20 09:34:41

Try watching Mark Drakeford, Wales First Minister.

Ellianne Wed 23-Sept-20 09:32:02

Furret

I agree with everything in your post Alegrias (except for dismissing Dilyn as a distraction).

Dilyn is an asset!

How about this one then? And it's called Yummy!

25Avalon Wed 23-Sept-20 09:28:09

I watched Miss Marple instead. Then I read a transcript of Bori’s speech and had no trouble understanding it.

Furret Wed 23-Sept-20 09:21:13

I agree with everything in your post Alegrias (except for dismissing Dilyn as a distraction).

Elegran Wed 23-Sept-20 09:20:21

I posted this on the wrong thread - should have been on here.

The other significant difference in tone, which has been emerging over recent days, is whether to use the carrot or the stick.
Those who see others breaking the rules, and who blame young people for spreading virus, are likely to want to see a punitive response. The British see themselves as having a sense of fair play: if they're to give up their liberties, they really resent those who fail to play by those rules. That approach was most evident from the prime minister today and by others in recent days.
There's a subtle contrast with the message from Holyrood, which takes a softer tone. The toughest talk from Nicola Sturgeon on Tuesday was about enforcing 10pm closure and distancing rules in bars and restaurants. They have licences and face health inspectors, so the stick can be more easily applied.
But for the wider public, the Holyrood carrot is held out as a sense of common endeavour: we owe it to each other, particularly the vulnerable: let's look after one another.
That emphasises solidarity with the majority who obey the rules, rather than highlighting resentment at the minority who do not. We'll find out this winter which approach works better.
Covid in Scotland: Boris's stick and Nicola's carrot, Douglas Fraser, BBC Business/economy editor, Scotland
Rest of article - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-54257716

Alegrias Wed 23-Sept-20 09:18:17

I agree with the posters who have said that criticism of the PMs hair, suit etc are inappropriate. And the dog is a distraction. However Johnson does cultivate an image of a rumpled rogue, so he is putting that out there for public consumption.

Criticism of his performance as PM is much more relevant. It is absolutely not an easy job, but he thought it was when he put himself up for it last year, didn’t he? He thought he’d be swanning around Downing Street and Chequers, making speeches about Brexit and shaking hands with his adoring fans. Instead, the whole world is faced with a major crisis, and he doesn’t have the character to lead us through it. Unfortunately, JenniferEccles, he’s not managing the balancing act at all. He’s barely managing to construct a lucid sentence unless it’s been written in advance.
He should either step up to the challenge, which I don’t believe he can, or he should get out of the way and let somebody else lead.

Ellianne Wed 23-Sept-20 09:15:13

Furret

Let’s see more of Dilyn ??

Yes, perhaps poor Dilyn is there under sufference too!

Furret Wed 23-Sept-20 09:08:52

Boris is ‘managing’ nothing.

Dilyn for PM

Furret Wed 23-Sept-20 09:07:38

??

FannyCornforth Wed 23-Sept-20 08:52:00

Yes, yes it is!

Furret Wed 23-Sept-20 08:50:08

PS is that how it’s spelled?

Furret Wed 23-Sept-20 08:49:48

Let’s see more of Dilyn ??