Refusing to wear a mask

Sorry but I disagree re the trophy wife description. It is IMO wrong on every level. Demeaning to women, a poor reflection on husband’s values etc.

Someone wise once said to me, we do the best to raise our children to make their own decisions, and then we panic when they make decisions that we disagree with! I'd just state my opinion without any expectation or judgment attached.

Re describing someone as a 'trophy wife', I might have used it too. To me it is an informal way of describing a beautiful woman married to someone where she doesn't have to worry about anything else than looking good. A throwaway comment, not a hanging offence...

Esspee said "He feels that Covid 19 has been overhyped and as so few people have serious repercussions it should be treated like flu and everyone needs to get back to work. He opposes the restrictions that have been brought in."

I live in the U.S. as well; am 63 and agree with your son. he may very well have learned things via alternative news media. I certainly have, and have much less fear of the virus now. I do wear a mask going into stores as it is a requirement, thankfully without stiff penalties, as in many EU countries!

I wear it out of respect for the store personnel who have to wear these day in day out for seven hours, not because I believe in the efficacy of them.

I really worry about the effects of all this hype and fearmongering and the measures, such as lockdowns that make businesses go broke and cause unemployment.

A Dutch professor did a study on the effects of social distancing. "For the Greater Good? The Devastating Ripple Effects of the Lockdown Measures"

repub.eur.nl/pub/127236

This is an interesting one too. "Potential effects of “social” distancing measures and school lockdown on child and adolescent mental health".
file:///C:/Users/cdvje/AppData/Local/Temp/Repub_128424.pdf

I'm glad you've finally seen a maskless male andymorris

I was getting worried that it was only females

Respect his views. He is an adult and has his own point of view that just happens to differ to yours. It doesn't mean either of you are right or wrong and have to be true to yourselves.

Is there a reason in these bus anecdotes to state that alleged mask-offenders are ‘coloured’? Is it relevant to the story?

So you touched the window that he had just touched. Not the safest of things to do perhaps.

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annodomini

I think that Nadine Dorries was the first public figure to fall victim to Covid19 - well before the PM.

Yes, she was. I’m going to email her and thank her. She seems to know more about the virus than a Hancock, anyway....

suziewoozie

Namsnanny

Look at the estrangement threads suziewoozie.

One mans disagreement is another mans abuse.

Well DD and I have a very honest, open and lively relationship,and can disagree about all sorts in an honest, open and lively way. I’m sorry for people who can’t do this.

suziewoozie ...

I'm sorry too.

But never the less it happens.

It would be careless not to advise caution knowing this to be the case.

I think that Nadine Dorries was the first public figure to fall victim to Covid19 - well before the PM.

Surely whether an individual believes it affords protection is immaterial?

On the slight chance that it does, people should be wearing them.

I would fully support your son! with all due respect to you!

I think the worlds gone mad because I’ve just heard Nadine Dorries in parliament just now explain how exactly why mask wearing protects everyone. Not only that but she also pointed out that it is totally wrong to use Sweden as an example of a country that has dealt with Covid well. I think I shall have to write to her and thank her. Never thought that would ever happen!

He's an adult, don't say anything, it's none of your business. He won't listen so what would be the point.

Say nothing.

Lucca Somebody's grandson thinking it would be hilarious to say something stupid on GN. He will grow up (I hope).

My concerns with any response to your son not wearing a mask would be your comments

"trophy wife"
He was brought up to show empathy, be socially responsible, caring and level headed."
When you can make a comment about having a trophy wife I don't really think you can have truly brought your son up with the values you mention and you have therefore no right to criticise anyone

Hondaboy

The UK Government of Occupation are desperate to keep the
Covidscam alive so as introduce their Marxist agenda they will brainwash one and all with mind control..i.e. MASKS !!

?????where did you get that from ? Unbelievable the completely moronic statements To be found on some websites.

people who think they have exemptions seem to think their exemption will stop them getting it...and they think their exemption will stop them from spreading it

there was a comment printed in the Metro paper recently from a reader saying....people with exemptions are being given a licence to kill

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Mildmanneredgran

iv noticed on buses its largely females of 15 to 25 ish not wearing masks....i have noticed some males not wearing masks, but its not many...ive challenged a few and i tend to just get abuse back...They seem so used to getting on buses and the drivers or anyone, not saying anything...and then seem rather shocked at anyone having the nerve to challenge them ...and they look at you as if to say....you cant tell me what to do....if i dont want to wear a mask ..im not going to wear a mask so FU ....thats a veey common attitude in males and females

I told our local shop keeper why 4 Turkish people were not wearing masks in his shop.he said because we lose custom.I said but they can pass the virus onto anyone including you who are not wearing a mask.told him I not coming back in his shop again.asked if I wanted a bag said no thanks your germs are all over it

Maybe you should point out while he may not get the virus he can certainly pass it onto other people

Say nothing. He is an adult, he is entitled to make his own decisions and not think the same way as you. If he asks for your opinion, then give it in a non-inflammatory way. You are unlikely to gain anything but grief from arguing with him. You have brought him up to be empathetic, socially responsible, etc, but you have also brought him up to be independent thinker. Whilst I abide by the Pandemic rules, who really knows if we are right to be handling it the way we are.