This is why we are in the situation we are in and why people are loosing their jobs and businesses but most people really don't care.
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Do people not understand the rules . Am in tier 2 and the amount of people having visitors in my neighbourhood is unbelievable . Not seen my grandchildren for weeks or spending Xmas with them .Does anyone else think its selfish.
This is why we are in the situation we are in and why people are loosing their jobs and businesses but most people really don't care.
I do get annoyed at all the people I see entering shops, not wearing masks, not maintaining a safe distance and not using the hand sanitiser supplied.
As for meeting family - only you know whether your family has been careful to avoid contracting the virus. If they have been careful then I would not condemn anyone who wanted to see family over Christmas
Greenfinch
This does not bother me too much as I can keep out of their way but I do get annoyed with people not wearing masks in supermarkets. I counted 5 in Tesco last night-all young men.
If a symptom of Covid was that
“their balls would drop off”
You would never see an unmasked man !
During the first lockdown in the spring my elderly neighbour was nervous about going out so I was doing his food shopping along with mine.
On a couple of occasions he had forgotten to put a few things on his list so when I got back I popped out again, this time just to the local shop. This was when we were only supposed to leave home once a day.
If any neighbour had been tracking my movements maybe they said said “Jenny from no. 5 has been out in her car TWICE today”
Come to think about it, maybe they were gossiping about me on one of the many complaining threads on here!
X post means I was typing when you submitted your comment Nannapat saying virtually the same thing. We agree.
I put crossed post because otherwise there might be accusations of repetition.
I'd find infuriating but, at the same time, experience tells me that you can only be responsible for yourself and do what you think is right.
As a country, we don't have s collective sense of responsibility. We're all independent individuals and act accordingly.
I've done my very best to listen to Govt advice (which I don't think is ever consistent, logical or sensible) and play my part for the safety and protection of my family.
Don't waste any energy worrying about other people, just concentrate on yourself and your loved ones.
I have kept to the rules since the start. I will be spending Christnas alone. I have been alone all the time anyway other than seeing family very occasionally socially distanced. Seen one set of grandchildren once and others twice since early March Will leave Christmas presents on their doorsteps next week. In the USA there has been a big spike of cases since Thanksgiving celebrations. The same will happen here after Christmas.
A work colleague chose to visit a sick relative, at their home (breaking our Tier 2 rules, I believe). Some people might say that is their business/choice. Unfortunately, said colleague went on to catch Covid from their relative (who has, sadly, since died from it) and my place of work had to close while members of staff got tests to see if they had been infected. Fortunately, thanks to masks/sanitizing/distancing, the rest of us seem to have got away with it. But it has been a scary time, and we've all suffered financially as a result of this person's actions. I don't even know how I will be able to look them in the eye when we return to work, I am so angry with them for putting the rest of us at risk. Also sad for the loss of their relative, of course. A mix of emotions!
Ellianne
X post Nannapat.
Not sure what you mean Ellianne...
From what I’ve seen with the first lockdown on March 23rd everyone stuck to the rules. But as others have said with all the mixed messages and bubbles and tiers it’s all got lost in translation. I’m policing myself, I’m in tier 2 but so many in my area are doing what they want. I feel the muddled mixed messages have caused so much confusion.
Has nobody on here suffered through the virus? Has nobody on here lost someone dear to the virus?
If you had, you would not be so blasé, smug and selfish.
People like twowolves who are clearly selfish and stupid and couldn’t give a fig about other people’s lives.
People who won’t wear masks because they’re an inconvenience to their important lives.
People who mix randomly because they want to. Epidemic deniers, mask avoiders, people who think they know better than the experts. People who downplay the seriousness because they “don’t know anyone with it”. People who whinge that they want to see family - even if it kills a few people?
I prided myself on not being over judgmental until this awful dreadful pandemic.
After having been through this terrible year, I see the selfishness and often utter stupidity of so many people.
Last night, I actually prayed that they would be the ones to become so ill or lose someone dear. It made me feel nauseous afterwards but I still want this to happen.
Sorry for the rant, but it’s so sad that all of you are so forgiving of the offenders, presumably because you haven’t yet been ill or lost someone dear? I assure you that you’ll feel differently when that happens to you.
You have to do what's right for you and feels safe for you. The rules are silly in some cases and I dont really blame some people for breaking them. I don't.
There is a feeling of ‘if I ignore it it will go away’. Fine if you stay away from other people, but they don’t. You’d think living in a country with compulsory, free education, people would be more sensible.
Really can’t agree with you TwoWolves. The mask is to protect others, not protect the wearer. Yes you are being selfish and ignorant.
X post Nannapat.
Ooopps ... None of the posters on here criticised those who were being careful and staying home. They criticised those who were criticising all others without knowing the circumstances.
It is arrogance to lump those who are out helping those who cannot cope alone in a damning statement with those who are breaking the rules.
Yes rule breakers and people not using common sense are infuriating but we can’t force them to do anything. We can only try to stay safe ourselves and do what we feel is right and sensible.
Everyone is getting bored and confused but after surviving so
many months without catching the virus wouldn’t it be awful to succumb for the sake of a family Xmas get together. I say postpone Christmas to Easter and Easter to .......??
I think some of us are just fed up with the rules, which change so constantly it is becoming difficult to keep up with them.
I'd be wary of criticising other people's actions as while you may believe that they are breaking the rules, you don't know their exact circumstances.
I work in care, so I can go to a coupe with another carer. That makes 4 of us altogether. So I can work in a home I don't really know but carnt go visit the other carer in her home. Then people wonder why other don't obey rules, because they don't make sense.
Hypno
Absolutely fed up ........but muddled messages and illogical rules from government have not helped. But I am astonished at how selfish and in denial people are and their arrogance at criticising people who are being careful!!
If you read carefully on here Hypno you will see that none of the posters criticised thos
There is a core of people all the way through that have just carried on as if nothing is different and sadly .no one has tried to pick out these people and shut them in a room all together - if they did, reckon that we wouldn't be in the state that we are now!
Along with the obvious delight when we are beginning to see the end of this awful virus and all the restrictions surrounding it, I shall be most pleased to see the end of all these threads complaining about neighbours allegedly flouting the rules.
We have no way of knowing what is going on in other people’s lives, but that hasn’t stopped thread after thread appearing, right from the very beginning of the pandemic telling all and sundry about their neighbours comings and goings plus how many visitors they have had.
Unless there is a large party going on, which I would definitely report, I think we should all just get on with our own lives and not bother ourselves with what our neighbours are doing.
We have no way of knowing what is going on in people’s lives have we ? They could be facing a family emergency and need support.
My family will always be my top priority regardless of what the latest rules and guidelines say.
Absolutely fed up ........but muddled messages and illogical rules from government have not helped. But I am astonished at how selfish and in denial people are and their arrogance at criticising people who are being careful!!
It seems that some people who get caught out can get unpaid leave for 6 months and go on an expensive holiday abroad.
I wear a mask out of respect for others, not because I think it will protect me.
I stick to the rules out of respect for others, not because I think they are sensible or make any sense.
To put myself at risk is to put others close to me at risk. I am cautious all of the time, and no I haven't shut myself away for a year, and yes I have worked through the lockdowns.
I don't expect rounds of applause, I just expect others to treat me with the same respect as I offer them.
Think best to get on with your life and not stress about what others are doing. Stress and worry more likely to ruin your life than this thing.
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