5 day break...

It has caused a terrible strain on our friendship, fairview.
She has always been a funny old stick, but she has really surpassed herself this year.

I agree with many, precautions are not always adhered to,its too late to put a ban on things,that shoud have been introduced a long time ago.Let us hope people will be sensible and not mix unless absolutely necessary,but also have a Happy Christmas.

We don’t live in North Korea. Most people are sensible, let them decide.

...and live animals that were killed on the spot.

And defecating in terror, all interspersed with busy street food stalls and with no running water. When I suggested shopping in markets, I was thinking more of fresh fruit, vegetables and eggs purchased in the fresh air!

Well. The 5 day break isn't happening now at all!!

I just don’t get it.
Be sensible......this is a pandemic.....the government should have been firm from the beginning, never mind pussyfooting around. The vulnerable need protection or they will die if they contract it most likely. A vaccine is now being rolled out, with patience it could be dealt with in a few months, without it will continue to spread for months and months and more.
A lesson could be learned simply by looking at the difference in handling between Guernsey and the Isle of Man and similar jurisdictions!

Well it is one day only now!! Plus London cannot meet. Just stay safe and sane!

MissAdventure

My neighbour has 14 people coming to her for christmas day, a real mixed bag of people.

I haven't curtain twitched, by the way. She just knocked and told me. (And she has diabetes and copd)

Well she won’t have now!
Out of interest (and not breaching anonymity); which Tier is she in?

I don't imagine her plans will alter at all.
She's in tier 4.

Some have posted on here about staying over the Christmas period. I hope plans do get changed.

I do fear that many will not change their plans to limit the visit to Christmas Day only. Or even better cancel the visit altogether.

More than willing to change plans to cut out the overnight stay here. It is what it is, and compliance is for the common good.

Well, that's our Christmas sorted (tier 2)
We will still be able to spend Christmas day with DS 2 and family - we child mind for them several times a week anyway, they work from home and none of us to mix with anyone else, so no additional risk. But I have had to tell my elderly mum that we really don't think it is safe for us to go and get her (120 miles away) so she too can spend Christmas with us. The journey just throws up too many potential risks - what if we broke down in our old car, what if a toilet break was needed etc.
I feel awful now, because although she he put on a brave face, she has always dreaded being on her own at Christmas and I know she is very upset. A no-win situation really.
Plus, two days ago she even postponed her covoid vaccination because she thought she would be coming to us on the proposed day ?

It's not compulsory. If you don't feel safe mixing with family then you don't have to.

My friend in London has a sense of humour. But still sad for them.

Its not .we now in tier 4.wonder how many will break the new rules

We're in tier 2 but our family is tier 4 only a few miles away.
We are going to drive there to exchange presents on the driveway tomorrow as we are Santa for the extended family and 3 little boys deserve a Christmas. The rest of us are waiting until Summer!!

I really feel for your mum MamaCaz that so sad. x

The joke made me laugh though Ellianne. I’m off to share it!

MamaCaz, that is so sad for your poor Mum but better safe than sorry, hope she gets her jab soon and you can have a belated celebration with her.

AJKW

We don’t live in North Korea. Most people are sensible, let them decide.

People have very different definitions of what is sensible though. I think Christmas at home is sensible.

Others feel their rights are being stolen away and the best way to fight is to have a large Christmas. That’s what they feel is sensible.

It seems Boris was listening ?. I live on tier 2, my friend lives in tier 4. She and I will now be spending Christmas alone, separately as we are not allowed to mix.

Each and every Gransnet member who has posted on this thread has considered and valid opinions about the appalling situation we find ourselves in. Despite this our planet has survived for millions of years and it does seem that Herbert Spencer's "survival of the fittest" is our fate during this major crisis.
There are endless disputes about why we survive these events. Multiple factors appear to have have contributed - but all the acquired life experience, preservation instinct, intellectual knowledge and medical advances or even personal wealth in the past seem to have proved futile.
Our world comprises such a wealth of multiple cultures and views that it is unsurprising and unreasonable to expect even our closest family to mirror our own views on coping with C19. I believe we listen and read as much as we can about this current pandemic but none of us can be condemned by our decisions but neither should we condemn other peoples opinions. The crunch is that our decisions affect each other.

Well, I'm not one of the fittest or youngest and I'm quite keen on surviving for a bit longer.

Historically, plagues have indeed wiped out whole populations and the human race has survived, but I don't want to be one of the sacrifices.

Summerlove

AJKW

We don’t live in North Korea. Most people are sensible, let them decide.

People have very different definitions of what is sensible though. I think Christmas at home is sensible.

Others feel their rights are being stolen away and the best way to fight is to have a large Christmas. That’s what they feel is sensible.

If they want a fight, maybe somebody could be persuaded to donate a large island somewhere, where they can go and fight each other. Most of the rest of us realise that we live in a society.

Omg, I find myself agreeing with Growstuff AGAIN

You had better go and lie down with a cool flannel on your head.