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I think it is a great idea. Maybe a vaccine AND a covid test (covid test required now where I am AND for the UK I think). It would require everyone to have access to the vaccine of course.
Requiring everyone who wishes to go overseas to have been vaccinated against Covid-19 is a path towards discrimination, according to the head of the World Travel and Tourism Council.
Gloria Guevara, chief executive of the industry body, criticised the approach by Australian airline Qantas, whose boss, Alan Joyce, suggested passengers would need a jab before they can board one of its international services.
“We should never require the vaccination to get a job or to travel,” she said. “I totally disagree with the approach from Qantas. If you require the vaccination before travel, that takes us to discrimination.”
The chief executive of AirAsia, Tony Fernandes, supported Guevara, and added that global testing measures are the way to unlock travel.
However, according to a survey conducted by Qantas, 87 per cent of respondents said they would be happy to take the coronavirus vaccine if it was demanded for international travel, while 85 per cent thought it should be required for travel to “at least some countries”.
A 2020 report by the Ada Lovelace Institute, an independent research body, stated that the introduction of ‘vaccine passports’ could “pose extremely high risks in terms of social cohesion, discrimination, exclusion and vulnerability.”
uk.news.yahoo.com/travel-latest-news-mandatory-vaccine-081612096.html
And don’t talk to me about hindsight
“Britain to close borders”. I read in the Times. I wondered how many others reacted like me with a
“ too #**#@%, late “ ?!
Nobody has right to impose any medical treatment on anyone and they can and should be sued should they attempt to do so
Callistemon
petra
If you've got the money you can fly to Dubai on a private jet and get vaccinated. The flight and the vaccine are a package.
You can't board a flight to, transit at the airport or exit at Dubai without a certificate to prove you have had a negative Covid test.
A friend was not allowed on a flight to Dubai because he didn't have a certificate, just a text message to say he was Covid-free.
This was a few months ago before the vaccines.
Just 2 weeks ago, you could fly to Dubai and get a covid test on arrival if you did not have one prior to leaving the UK - you then had to quarantine until your results 24 hours later. The rules keep changing everywhere.
Wasn't it highlighted when the fiasco at Dover occurred that haulage drivers basically self isolate being in a cab for the journey and also sleeping in the vehicle when doing long haul hence the low threat of them transmitting the virus if they did have it.
What's the difference from having to produce evidence of any vaccination to having to produce a passport or visa for whichever country requires you to. Don't we all go and get vaccinations for diseases prevalent in some countries already or have all diseases been wiped out since I travelled to Africa, Asia. Testing isn't 100% failsafe. How many examples have been mooted about people being tested as neg one day and 3 or 5 days later being tested again and found positive. With the amount of world wide travel undertaken nowadays there has to be a shift in our approach to accepting requirements such as vaccination.
What your suggesting is what you’d expect to read in George Orwell’s 1984 novel. If your afraid or susceptible to serious illness from the Covid virus, then you get the vaccine, that will protect you from those who chose not to be vaccinated for whatever reason.
Exactly Helenlouise. For me really, it means I have to return to the UK permanently after this academic year. For my DD and DGS to visit me, it would cost an additional £480. There is no way my daughter can afford that. And even if I help, it would be a once a year occurence, rather than a regular thing.
At the moment, the price of a covid test for travel is £120 pp. That's a big hike for a family on top of the cost of the original holiday, especially if you have to have another one in order to return to the UK
The first time I went abroad in August 1966 there was a smallpox outbreak in the UK, and Spain was not allowing International travellers into the country without a valid smallpox vaccination certificate. So it has been done before.
I have often been on holiday to countries outside Europe, eg India. Egypt, which require you to have certain vaccines before you go eg yellow fever. Dengue fever, encephalitis etc. My GP surgery has a travel clinic, where you can go and get them. Usually about £30. No hassle. Can't see why people would object to a similar scheme, no one complains about their human rights in those circumstances. It's about protecting your and others health.
At the moment I have 3 family members all with Covid 1 of which is in the hospital plus 3 who have been told to isolate including my 8 month old grandson, the way I see it is if you are thinking of going abroad you should firstly go and take a look at your local hospital.You may not have Covid but you could still bring it back
Guardian article on vaccine passports.
www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jan/15/covid-vaccine-passports-what-are-they-and-do-they-pose-a-danger-to-privacy
EllanVannin
The haulier companies could be billed for their tests.
Which will inevitably push up prices.
GagaJo
growstuff
Aha! Found something.
www.kmfm.co.uk/news/politics/covid-19-border-tests-detect-very-low-levels-among-hauliers/
Who's paying for hauliers to have these tests?Surely it would be the company they work for.
Many of them are self-employed and work to quite tight margins. Time is money to them and they're already experiencing delays, so having a test will be yet another delay.
I've just watched a science bloke on tv say exactly that.
Too late.
growstuff
Aha! Found something.
www.kmfm.co.uk/news/politics/covid-19-border-tests-detect-very-low-levels-among-hauliers/
Who's paying for hauliers to have these tests?
Surely it would be the company they work for.
Only a year too late!
About bleeding time!
Just announced that all entry into Britain will need a negative test.
The haulier companies could be billed for their tests.
Aha! Found something.
www.kmfm.co.uk/news/politics/covid-19-border-tests-detect-very-low-levels-among-hauliers/
Who's paying for hauliers to have these tests?
EllanVannin
Apparently there are very low levels on Covid tests which were carried out on hauliers so there are no plans for tougher checks on visitors to France being extended to lorry drivers.
I'm not disbelieveing you, but where did you read it?
The MHRA has just refused to authorise the LFT's routine use as the government had intended, in schools.
Apparently there are very low levels on Covid tests which were carried out on hauliers so there are no plans for tougher checks on visitors to France being extended to lorry drivers.
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