Why are arrivals from India not being sent to quarantine hotels?

I have “read the full thread “. Can anyone explain why there is a weeks delay between expressing concern about another countries Covid status , and implementing the hotel, quarantine rule? Is the government actuallly inviting people in India to book their last minute flights or private charters to beat the deadline? How kind.
When most of us are being compliant with lock down rules , it’s enough to make people say Sod it! Why should we bother?!

The vaccination programme in Britain has been excellent, so has the vaccination programme in Israel. America is doing well I believe, but of course they have many more people to vaccinate. My American friends received both their vaccines early this year.
The lockdowns in Australia have worked well, but will certainly not work as soon as Australia opens up. For that a population needs vaccination. We live in a global society and lockdowns, whilst effective, only have limited value, and no value long term. Vaccination is the only way for long term control of the virus.

Sometimes in this short life one just can’t be stuffed as they say.

Read the Full Thread.

There was a discussion on the subject after the post you commented on.

You are still fully entitled to post of course. Just thought you might be interested in what was said subsequently.

Alegrias1

RTFT Spice101

No idea what this means

What vaccination program? Ours is useless. A few of us who are older have been ‘done’ but we had to chase it ourselves, they certainly didn’t chase us. Meanwhile many front line workers are waiting, waiting. We are good at the lockdowns but not the prevention. WA is currently locked down for just one case which, ‘conspiracy theory alert ‘ involves a person from a country that we have deeply offended and appears to want to punish us. That’ll unleash the righteous amongst us but it is very strange timing.

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Alegrias1

nanna8

You're mad. What's wrong with your government? Unbelievable stupidity.

Said the woman whose government has only reached 25% of its vaccine targets.

Glass houses.

That maybe so but given that the whole of Australia has had less than 10,000 cases of CV and under 1,000 deaths in total I think our lockdowns and other measures say more than a vaccination program that has not been as ideal as one would hope.

Glass houses indeed!

Seeing how many people are travelling all over the world in the middle of a pandemic. That could have been nipped in the bud if people had just stopped flying all over the world for a short time last year.

MayBee70

That’s fascinating. And very frightening.

What is? That we can track planes? Or how many there are?

Thanks Summerlove I will take a look.

They all seemed to be heading west, not east.

That’s fascinating. And very frightening.

Callistemon

Where were they going?

I've not seen so many for months, it was extraordinary.

planefinder.net/

It’s late, but this will tell you where all of the planes are going

Hope for the best but plan for the worst is what this country should have been doing but isn’t. The chances are that vaccination will protect us from this new variant but we don’t actually know that for sure. And no one knows for sure if having had covid already protects against the new variant either. All the countries around India were on the red list so why wasn’t India?

MayBee70

I can assure you, Algeria’s, that I am not foreigner bashing and it’s wrong of you to just pick up on the one post that does sound a bit like that. I can also assure you that I am just concerned that there is a potentially dangerous variant that is already in this country and if we end up with community spread of it we’re in big trouble. And if we do it’s because the government have, yet again acted too late. This virus has no brain and can’t move on its own and yet it is outwitting us at every turn. It’s about time we used a bit if common sense and outwitted it. The people travelling back from India are then travelling to their homes, going to work, schools, shopping probably with no controls in place to stop it.

Quite!

I used the term ‘swanning in’ and I can assure those of you who took a high handed tone with me, that it’s nothing whatsoever to do with ‘Johnny foreigner’ and I think that assumption is quite rude. Alegrias and GrannyGravy neither of you knew that I was thinking these people are Johnny Foreigner because I didn’t say that, you did! And had the nerve to assign that thought to me! I could have termed it arriving in Britain, because that is precisely what these people are doing. They may well have been working, or visiting family, but the fact is that they are arriving here from one of the worst affected countries in the world and until tomorrow there is no requirement for mandatory quarantine for them. If you’re happy about that, well I’m not! I’ve already had a bad dose of the virus and I don’t want another one via a different variant, and I think all those arriving from India should have been on the obligatory quarantine list some time ago. If you don’t like my views, tough! I’m not going to change them on your account.

I don't think you used the phrase "swanning in" Maybee70? My post was directed at the people who did.

I agree that the WM government has acted too late in putting India on the Red List. Of course in Scotland everyone has to go into quarantine hotels, irrespective of where they come from. Have done for weeks.

I can assure you, Algeria’s, that I am not foreigner bashing and it’s wrong of you to just pick up on the one post that does sound a bit like that. I can also assure you that I am just concerned that there is a potentially dangerous variant that is already in this country and if we end up with community spread of it we’re in big trouble. And if we do it’s because the government have, yet again acted too late. This virus has no brain and can’t move on its own and yet it is outwitting us at every turn. It’s about time we used a bit if common sense and outwitted it. The people travelling back from India are then travelling to their homes, going to work, schools, shopping probably with no controls in place to stop it.

I was just pointing out JaneJudge that the statement that we are not allowed to travel abroad is not correct.

I was just reading an article about someone who studies in the UK but went (home) to India several months ago, if he doesn't come back here soon his Visa will be revoked. We don't know the circumstances these people are facing and I think its very unfair when they are all portrayed as irresponsible.

Alegrias1

It's illegal to travel abroad for holidays. Neither you nor I know why these people are flying here from India but I saw a report about one man who had left the UK, his home, to go to his mother's funeral in India, and now wanted to come home again.

The use of the term "swanning into this country" implies that these people have no right to be here and and just going to flaunt the rules as soon as they arrive.

Johnny Foreigner, eh?

I agree with you on this.

but I have already been told off for assuming things

I hadn't even considered people might think people had gone to India on holiday atm I assumed most people would be there for work or family commitments.

It's illegal to travel abroad for holidays. Neither you nor I know why these people are flying here from India but I saw a report about one man who had left the UK, his home, to go to his mother's funeral in India, and now wanted to come home again.

The use of the term "swanning into this country" implies that these people have no right to be here and and just going to flaunt the rules as soon as they arrive.

Johnny Foreigner, eh?

Sarnia

It is illegal for me to book a flight to India but perfectly ok for thousands to swan into the UK having just left a country riddled with Covi-19 and double variants. When, oh when, will we ever learn?

This is why it’s so annoying. We are not allowed to travel abroad (not that I want to just at the moment) but thousands can swan into this country and not even have to isolate when they arrive, till tomorrow anyway when enforced quarantine begins. What’s the point of chasing the Indian variant round London, testing everyone, but letting thousands in who will not be made to isolate? We know from bitter experience that many who are asked to isolate at home don’t bother. Will all these people bother to isolate voluntarily? The last year has shown us that they won’t.

Barmeyoldbat

The government is hoping to do a trade deal with India, maybe that is something to with it.

Absolutely Barmey, I think that’s the nub of it.