Dominic Cummings

noun
British
the practice of raising the price of a house, even though one has agreed a price verbally with an intending buyer
During the 1980s property boom, gazumping was common.

Not British - English.

I have just browsed Twitter and frankly it’s hysterically hilarious, all those who this time last year were wholeheartedly trashing DC as a liar and incompetent are now hanging on his every word as gospel...

It will be interesting to see the PM’s and Conservative Parties position in the polls next week though.

No, not a joke at all. Deep covert lab stuff. Scary really.
Another way of control. Chemical warfare.

I supported Cummings Dinahmo. I thought he would be a breath of fresh air. Shake departments up a bit. Make them fit for purpose.

Is it also a joke that they rushed out the vaccines because they knew the virus was made in the lab?

I was going to mention "pounce", but the thought of Trump "pouncing" was just a bit too graphic for me....

Duh. ‘pronounce’. I’m as bad as you this afternoon!
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Alegrias1

Oh good lord.

We've gone down the rabbit hole.

There's no h in China

It was a joke Alegrias. Trump used to pounce it that way!

greenlady102

I don't think its that wowish if you look at what is being said not how its being said. Of course herd immunity has to be considered as an unavoidable fact if there is no vaccine. That doesn't mean that you plan it or choose it.

But in the discussions they were comparing the herd immunity gained from chicken pox for example with that which would happen with covid. Chicken pox is not a virus that sweeps at speed through the community.

Sadly I think this is showing that the divisions over Brexit are still with us. I don't recall anyone supporting Cummings and several people criticising him over the Barnard Castle trip.

I'm sure he does have proof - his photo of the whiteboard from very early discussions was on the news this morning.

I've had LBS on this morning and there have been several callers, either in tears or close to, talking about their family members lost through covid.

I do agree that "hell has no fury....." but I'm glad this is being highlighted because it may make the Johnson supporters realise just how badly the whole thing has been managed.

Every dog has its day!!!

DC is a prime example of someone with short man syndrome

He was at the heart and allegedly the orchestrator of the majority of decisions, yet he cannot remember what COBRA meetings he attended, but can remember everything else.

He is trying to absolve himself in order to become employable once again.

Oh wait - there is!

There's only one h in China.

Oh good lord.

We've gone down the rabbit hole.

There's no h in China

When you think about it - no wonder the Wuhan wet markets opened so quickly again in the New Year. Those ‘in the know’ knew it hadn’t come from pangolins! They were selling them again soon enough, remember?

Scary stuff.

Trump called it out. The ‘Chinah Virus’.

The WHO are worse than useless. They know.

The comments I heard Cummings make this morning about 'gain of function' I thought were the most eye opening.

Gain of function (being the experimenting with pathogens (virus) to see how to make them multiply and spread) was a concern raised by many in 2019 and this topic was discussed in UK gov in the early days of pandemic.

100% clear 'they' knew the virus came out of the Chinese lab and Western countries had involvement.

No wonder they panicked and could come up with vaccines so quickly and at same time covered up the reality of it. Scared of public reaction if everyone knew the truth of what they had done!

Hancock is toast after this. Or ought to be he’s such a lightweight.
Plus Public Health England is not fit for purpose.

A huge overhaul is sorely needed.
The behemoth of the NHS too.

Pammie1

@Whitewavemark2. A close relative lives not far from Bolton and he says that there wasn’t a word said about travelling in and out of the area until yesterday and now the council is leaving it up to people’s common sense and discretion. There are pop up vaccination centres everywhere, but nothing much has changed since the rules eased on 17 May - the only difference is a ban on mixing indoors. Seemingly they’re putting their faith in the vaccine keeping things under control.

It seems to me that this sort of decision making will be something that we have learned to expect from this chaos.

As Cummings said and we saw with our own eyes time after time decisions are made, communicated to the public and then Johnson announced a u-turn.

Every single one of us can give examples.

“The crisis was lions led by donkeys” says Cummings and he was one of them!

I agree, it’s all about revenge. I’ll bet he won’t spill all the beans today but will bide his time until another suitable moment presents itself.

The government and Cummings are all as bad as each other and we are all suffering the results. Why do we no longer have elder statespeople with moderate and realistic propositions?

IMO we need PR for a more considered approach and coalition government where groups work together. This is a shambles.

@Lin52. He might be vengeful but how do we know he’s lying ? And there has been some corroboration of some of the things Boris has said - not just from Cummings.

@Whitewavemark2. A close relative lives not far from Bolton and he says that there wasn’t a word said about travelling in and out of the area until yesterday and now the council is leaving it up to people’s common sense and discretion. There are pop up vaccination centres everywhere, but nothing much has changed since the rules eased on 17 May - the only difference is a ban on mixing indoors. Seemingly they’re putting their faith in the vaccine keeping things under control.

vegansrock

Well we know the response of the government was flawed, but Cummings was part of it, and as such earns little or no respect. Is he saying anything we didn’t already know?

Probably not, but he is providing further evidence and confirmation to what we already know.

Bearing in mind that Johnson is not above arranging people that have annoyed him to be beaten up, I wouldn’t like to be in Cummings shoes ?

Well we know the response of the government was flawed, but Cummings was part of it, and as such earns little or no respect. Is he saying anything we didn’t already know?

Do you think the things he is saying aren't true Lin52?

Do you think No 10 was completely on top of the situation? Do you think Hancock had his finger on the pulse and everything was under control? Do you think Test and Trace has been a success?

More cross posts?

Pammie1

Boris called Covid ‘Kung Flu’ and wanted to be infected with it live on TV because he thought it wasn’t ‘real’ and then went on to say ‘well it’s only killing 80 year olds’!! Then there’s the ‘bodies’ piled high’ comment. What more is there to say ? We’d better pray that there’s some effective opposition by the time the next general election rolls around !!

You really believe all this vengeful little man is spouting. Don’t forget he was in the thick of it, never said a dickie bird, if true nothing to stop him resigning there and then, and telling all. Hope he is asked why he didn’t if he was so appalled.