Dominic Cummings

perhaps very deliberately, no?

Gannygangan

*But all those people who were getting on with their daily lives and taking no notice of what was happening in government might be getting a bit of a surprise.. An unpleasant one, I hope...*

I doubt it.

You're probably right.

They're all busy on the games threads and blissfully unaware that poor dear Boris is being traduced in parliament...

Gannygangan

Polarbear2

I don’t ‘love’ him nor am I wowed. I am pleased that he’s opening the blinds on this corrupt lying PM. I’m very aware DC was a part of this but whatever. The truth will out. It’ll be interesting to see what the fallout is.

But why is what he says the truth?

I just can't understand why people are believing him now.

I'm not on anyone's side here.

I'm in total agreement that we made many mistakes. I lost a family member early on in all this .They'd gone into hospital for a knee operation and caught Covid on the ward. 55.

But why we are going to believe Cummings because it suits our agenda when we rightly saw him as a dangerous man ?

Because it’s all documented. We can make up our own minds.

But all those people who were getting on with their daily lives and taking no notice of what was happening in government might be getting a bit of a surprise.. An unpleasant one, I hope...

I doubt it.

They all get on my wick clawing their way back to their non-jobs and not sorting out the real issues which are pressing.

Alegrias1

So far he doesn't seem to have said anything we didn't know already, has he?

Number 10 was in chaos, Hancock is out of his depth and they were all fighting each other like rats in a sack.

Precisely, Alegrias.

But all those people who were getting on with their daily lives and taking no notice of what was happening in government might be getting a bit of a surprise.. An unpleasant one, I hope...

Polarbear2

I don’t ‘love’ him nor am I wowed. I am pleased that he’s opening the blinds on this corrupt lying PM. I’m very aware DC was a part of this but whatever. The truth will out. It’ll be interesting to see what the fallout is.

But why is what he says the truth?

I just can't understand why people are believing him now.

I'm not on anyone's side here.

I'm in total agreement that we made many mistakes. I lost a family member early on in all this .They'd gone into hospital for a knee operation and caught Covid on the ward. 55.

But why we are going to believe Cummings because it suits our agenda when we rightly saw him as a dangerous man ?

But a quick search of this site shows many posters trashing Cummings. Not believing a word he said. Not trustworthy. Puppet master. Machiavel etc etc.

I think you'll find that most of the 'trashing' was in connection with his trip to Durham. When he was at the heart of government and covering up like mad. And being supported in his lies by the lying government.

This is completely different. Of course he's spinning like crazy to exonerate himself, but, as I said before, a lot of this isn't news to those who have followed closely.

He’s recalling things in great detail but says he can’t remember whether he attended Cobra meetings or not.

Some comments on the proceedings as they happen.

So far he doesn't seem to have said anything we didn't know already, has he?

Number 10 was in chaos, Hancock is out of his depth and they were all fighting each other like rats in a sack.

Lucca

“ Posters who were trashing Cummings just a few months ago are now thrilled with his comments. ”

I don’t agree with that comment sorry. I personally can’t bear Cummings or Johnson as I think they are both spectacularly economical with the truth.
I do think Johnson et al should be held accountable for their mishandling of Covid at the very least and if it takes the ghastly Cummings to do that then so be it. I am definitely not thrilled by it, I’d much rather we didn’t have an incompetent untruthful PM in the first place !

No need to apologise, Lucca.

And I didn't say all posters

But a quick search of this site shows many posters trashing Cummings. Not believing a word he said. Not trustworthy. Puppet master. Machiavel etc etc.

So how we are supposed to believe him because he's trouncing Boris I've no idea.

Quite agree that the government needs to be held accountable.

But if we're relying on Dominic Cummings to do that I'm afraid we won't get far.

Most people not particularly engaged with politics just think of Barnard Castle when his name is mentioned.

I don’t ‘love’ him nor am I wowed. I am pleased that he’s opening the blinds on this corrupt lying PM. I’m very aware DC was a part of this but whatever. The truth will out. It’ll be interesting to see what the fallout is.

No surprises really, the words of a man out for revenge for losing his job who TBH is hardly in a position to criticise the handling of the pandemic, when he deliberately broke the rules that were in place himself.

Cummings has a lot of fans on Gransnet - I wonder what they make of it all.

They believed every word of his cock & bull story when he drove to his father's house last year, and road-tested his eyesight before returning.

“ Posters who were trashing Cummings just a few months ago are now thrilled with his comments. ”

I don’t agree with that comment sorry. I personally can’t bear Cummings or Johnson as I think they are both spectacularly economical with the truth.
I do think Johnson et al should be held accountable for their mishandling of Covid at the very least and if it takes the ghastly Cummings to do that then so be it. I am definitely not thrilled by it, I’d much rather we didn’t have an incompetent untruthful PM in the first place !

rosie1959

Busy this morning but listening to a little wonder if his recollections might be different if he hadn’t have been sacked

Of course they would be different. This is Cummings getting his revenge. If he were still at the heart of government he'd be covering up like the rest of them...

But, he's really not disclosing much that wasn't known already, or had been surmised by close examination of relevant documents and interviews with others involved.

We've discussed herd immunity before. We surely know that it's rarely achieved by letting a disease rip through the population. Only through mass vaccination. Or complete suppression. We had no vaccination for covid and our government was never serious about suppression.

I'm not watching it, but I've been dipping into various live commentaries on twitter. It confirms so many things that people have been saying from the start...

Over a year ago, on here, I said that there'll be an awful lot of people suing the government for the deaths of their relatives because of the laxed attitude toward the virus when it was well known in November 2019 that it was taking a stronghold.

Very interesting , searching questions.

I knew he'd be back. It's been brewing with him for a long time.

I don't think that anyone is taking what he is saying this without question. The main issue I have with Cummings is that he seems to be responsible for Johnson getting elected. Assume that other recollections will come to light.

I haven't heard anything but a brief clip on the news, however, he's a vile vindictive man so his memory might ((or might not) be selective. I've no doubt herd immunity will have been discussed, I'm sure it was in any country regardless of political leaning. TBH I always thought Cummins and Johnson were a match made in heaven,or in hell!

Ah. Now we adore and believe everything that Demonic man has to say.

Baffling!

He's kept a record? I trust it's recorded. I want to hear this stuff

Posters who were trashing Cummings just a few months ago are now thrilled with his comments.

We were always told that Cummings was leading the country. Boris was just his puppet.

And of course that marvellous testing his eyesight trip

But now he's trashing the government the left all love him!

Either way it’s all documented so people can make up their own minds. He’s kept a record of everything.

Utterly damning.