Zero deaths!

I'm in a seaside town in the south west, our numbers have nearly trebled in the last week.

It is difficult, I don't resent people wanting a holiday but it is so crowded now I can't see how the virus won't spread. We had the same after half term last October, our numbers shot up from very low to above the national average.

Of course businesses need to trade, people need holidays so I guess we just have to get on with it.

Alegrias1

Line crossed growstuff.

See ya.

Sorry you feel like that, but the scientists I know deal with facts. They then use those facts to inform and don't hide them because they don't suit an agenda.

Zero reported deaths does not mean that the pandemic is over and is not some kind of milestone, unless the trend continues. Cases are rising - in some areas they've doubled in a few days, which is a reason for concern and, hopefully, for action.

Doesn't it depend on the results of trials and whether vaccines are safe for children?

Ellianne

Age 12 because that would mean that all those in secondary schools were vaccinated.

No it wouldn't. Children enter secondary school aged 11 and some aren't 12 until nearly 12months later. What do you do with the 11 year olds?

Line crossed growstuff.

See ya.

Actually, Alegrias, I'm quite surprised how you do ignore facts, considering you're a scientist.

Alegrias1

growstuff

I'm fed up with being infantilised and having facts withheld because it's considered I couldn't deal with them. Face the facts and deal with them.

The facts are that things are improving. Maybe it will all go to sh** again. Me, I'll look to better times. You can do what you like.

Yes, I will do what I like, thank you. I don't take any notice of people who have to ignore facts to be optimistic. For your information, I've never been pessimistic about Covid after getting over the shock of losing most of my income overnight.

Nepal has confirmed the presence of third B.1.617.2 variant of coronavirus, but we shouldn't be overconcern apparently. That could be true but then it is also true that many variants are occuring all over our world and we still need to be very, very careful.

There is talk of countries being cut from the "Green" list. I do hope this is true.

growstuff

I'm fed up with being infantilised and having facts withheld because it's considered I couldn't deal with them. Face the facts and deal with them.

The facts are that things are improving. Maybe it will all go to sh** again. Me, I'll look to better times. You can do what you like.

growstuff

Ellianne

Alegrias1

We can, and should, celebrate the successes without putting a dampener on every piece of good news.

Thanks Ellianne.

As I understood it, the important thing is to seize this news as a positive prediction for future weeks leading us back to normality. As human beings we sometimes need to look to each other for strength and positivity. I get what Alegrias is saying.

I don't, but then I'm not a fan of bread and circuses. I like facts.

This is very surprising to me. I think people who know my posts will know I don't go for bread and circuses. I go for facts too. But surely it's perfectly valid to be pleased that things are moving in the right direction? It's not being in denial, it's seeing a positive message after all the sh** we've all had to put up with.

What is really so bad in saying things are getting better? That deaths are right down on previous levels? I'm not advocating a free for all, I'm saying we should be hopeful. Should we all just be quiet and not say anything positive until we reach some as-yet undefined target?

Thanks again Ellianne, you get what I'm saying, I think.

I'm fed up with being infantilised and having facts withheld because it's considered I couldn't deal with them. Face the facts and deal with them.

Callistemon

EllanVannin

12 deaths----up-dated 2nd June @ 19.43

Yes, there is often a delay in reporting over weekends, particularly a BH weekend.
It's certainly not over but let's hope there is a glimmer of light and hope now.

There always was a glimmer of light and hope. The glimmer would have been brighter if the situation had been managed better and people hadn't been given false promises.

Age 12 because that would mean that all those in secondary schools were vaccinated.

85.1% of all adults in Wales have now had the first dose, and we’ve had no deaths for 6 days, but the message we’re getting from the government here is that it’s possible we won’t be moving down the restrictions from next week as planned because there’s been an outbreak in seaside towns in North Wales of the Indian variant. Our government is more cautious than England, and are on the case to minimise the impact, but there are so many tourists it’s going to be very difficult.

Ellianne

Alegrias1

We can, and should, celebrate the successes without putting a dampener on every piece of good news.

Thanks Ellianne.

As I understood it, the important thing is to seize this news as a positive prediction for future weeks leading us back to normality. As human beings we sometimes need to look to each other for strength and positivity. I get what Alegrias is saying.

I don't, but then I'm not a fan of bread and circuses. I like facts.

Ellianne

Whitewavemark2

I wonder how old they were and which variant?

That is the big risk now I think. Children seem to be catching it and suffering in some cases long term effects. We can’t ignore this because most are not badly affected. The sooner they get vaccinated the better.

How low would you age wise with children Whitewavemark2?

I think no lower than 12.

Why 12?

Whitewavemark2

I wonder how old they were and which variant?

That is the big risk now I think. Children seem to be catching it and suffering in some cases long term effects. We can’t ignore this because most are not badly affected. The sooner they get vaccinated the better.

How low would you age wise with children Whitewavemark2?

I think no lower than 12.

Yes Callistemon, hope is exactly right.

Alegrias1

We can, and should, celebrate the successes without putting a dampener on every piece of good news.

Thanks Ellianne.

As I understood it, the important thing is to seize this news as a positive prediction for future weeks leading us back to normality. As human beings we sometimes need to look to each other for strength and positivity. I get what Alegrias is saying.

EllanVannin

12 deaths----up-dated 2nd June @ 19.43

Yes, there is often a delay in reporting over weekends, particularly a BH weekend.
It's certainly not over but let's hope there is a glimmer of light and hope now.

Eh?

You are disagreeing with yourself Alegrias1 for the sake of someone to disagree with it seems. This seems to be a theme in your posts.

You came to a conclusion you decided was mine; I did not say that.

Thank you, Lin52.

PippaZ

Alegrias1

We can, and should, celebrate the successes without putting a dampener on every piece of good news.

Thanks Ellianne.

That is one opinion. It is not everyone's opinion.

Really PippaZ? You think we shouldn't celebrate good news?

Well we'll have to disagree on that one.

I wonder how old they were and which variant?

That is the big risk now I think. Children seem to be catching it and suffering in some cases long term effects. We can’t ignore this because most are not badly affected. The sooner they get vaccinated the better.