End of self isolation?

MawBe

^Talk about one rule for the plebs (us all) and one rule for them^
Why should anyone listen to anythig they say anymore. I am incandecent about this, and I can assure you I am not the only one. Just talked to close relatives who are lifelong Cons and they are as angry as we are. Their grandchildren have recently lost a lot of school time, one daughter found herself without childcare, and another son lost a massive opportunity- due to having to isolate

I’m sure many who work for TFL or Border Force would regard themselves as plebs according to your definition but I can also imagine the pearl clutching and outrage on GN if the entire “ping” protocol were abandoned without trialling first.
Damned if they do and damned if they don’t?
“Losing a lot of school time, being without childcare or losing business opportunities because of having to self-isolate” is about par for the course and considerably less serious than many others have had to cope with, so spare us the violins please.

You just can't help yourself, can you?

Border force is a very specific case- as you well know.

And no violins for me, thanks - just giving an example, and I am fully aware it has been much worse for many. Which confirms that the 'one rule for them, one rule for the rest of us' is massively damaging, and actually very dangerous- as was Cummings sight testing jollies all those months ago.

Some people are looking for any excuse not to follow rules - and this will just give them the go-ahead. Can you truly deny this?

Johnson far more worried about the readers of right wing rags than how many have deleted the app.

I told my son to turn it off at work (a bar) because since returning after catching Covid a month ago he was pinged every shift. With clubs opening tonight (including his place of work) it is going to go crazy. I figure as he’s just had Covid he’ll get to boost his antibodies each shift

I dont know if it's just about reading the room. Presumably they have access to data, my guess is the numbers deleting the app went through the roof today.

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD perhaps you could offer your fiscal policy knowledge to Mr.Sunak?

For the record I am not eagerly anticipating anything from The Government as the U.K. along with the entire world is currently ^steering through uncharted waters^

There are lots of good economists who could do it. Like the IMF which condemned our last session of tory austerity.

Sunak hasn't exactly shown himself to be adept at steering through these uncharted waters, either. Particularly with his 'Eat Out to Help Out and Spread Covid Far and Wide' scheme last summer.

Yeah I think quite a few trains were not running in London yesterday. Tomorrow could be interesting. For clarity it was the one rule for them one rule for other that the esteemed readers of the Mail were worried about.

So Johnson and Sunak will isolate.

They only did the same thing they ask of us when forced.

Even they realised that their actions were indefensible.

This thread has been a good example of how people will spin themselves any story they like in order to defend appalling actions by this government.

Your scraping the barrel when you have to resort to pointing out spelling/ grammatical errors to score a point.
Bit sad really ?

GrannyGravy13

Nezumi65

Thanks JaneJudge - I am concerned as the team are under powered at the moment anyway and I know so many people being pinged.

I see they have read the room & will self isolate. It’s not as if they’re doing jobs that can’t be done from home anyway (much as Johnson loves a hi-viz). They must have noticed that even the Daily Mail comments section was frothing

Let’s see if the Daily Mail comments section is frothing when train drivers, Border Force and other essential workers self isolate instead of testing every day on this trial…

No trains, essential services closed etc…

Trains were cancelled here yesterday in/out of London because of lack of staff. Not that I was planning to go anywhere, I just heard it on the radio

Sunak is a hedge fund manager married to a billionaire’s daughter. Anyone who has experienced ‘care’ provided by hedge fund backed corporate care companies (or worked for one) will realise what bad news someone with that background is for most of us.

Nezumi65

Thanks JaneJudge - I am concerned as the team are under powered at the moment anyway and I know so many people being pinged.

I see they have read the room & will self isolate. It’s not as if they’re doing jobs that can’t be done from home anyway (much as Johnson loves a hi-viz). They must have noticed that even the Daily Mail comments section was frothing

Let’s see if the Daily Mail comments section is frothing when train drivers, Border Force and other essential workers self isolate instead of testing every day on this trial…

No trains, essential services closed etc…

25Avalon

MaizieD your post could be considered racist.

No, I thought about that before I posted. I don't think it can be construed as racist in view of what I was responding to. I don't think we should choose our leaders by their novelty value, but by their competence to do the job.

Just heard on the news they are isolating.

25Avalon

MaizieD your post could be considered racist.

Absolutely

Thanks JaneJudge - I am concerned as the team are under powered at the moment anyway and I know so many people being pinged.

I see they have read the room & will self isolate. It’s not as if they’re doing jobs that can’t be done from home anyway (much as Johnson loves a hi-viz). They must have noticed that even the Daily Mail comments section was frothing

MaizieD perhaps you could offer your fiscal policy knowledge to Mr.Sunak?

For the record I am not eagerly anticipating anything from The Government as the U.K. along with the entire world is currently steering through uncharted waters

MaizieD your post could be considered racist.

Surely that was the quickest reverse ferret yet. I know there has been lots of competition but pretty impressive.

Michael Gove avoided self isolating in June by a similar scheme.

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD

Aaah, Sunak has just announced that he's not going to take part in the 'trial', he's going to self isolate like everyone else has to.

--polishing his halo for he leadership bid--

Let’s hope so, first non-whitePM of U.K. how refreshing!

Well, I suppose after electing a clown we might as well run the whole gamut of possibilities.

I suppose you're eagerly anticipating deep austerity measures with swingeing cuts to public investment*, privatisation of the NHS and a bonfire of workers' rights regulations.

*causing a deep recession because Sunak is economically illiterate..

They are both self isolating now after all the criticism.

I must say it doesn’t seem to me that Boris has his eye on the game. He thinks Freedom or Freedumb day as one newspaper dubbed it will be welcomed. Actually no as the vast majority think we should still wear masks and practise social distancing and will continue to do so. Perhaps another U turn tomorrow?

Losing a lot of school time, being without childcare or losing business opportunities because of having to self-isolate” is about par for the course and considerably less serious than many others have had to cope with, so spare us the violins please

'Young' people are really struggling, emotionally and financially. It is not unreasonable to expect children to receive an education. One of the classes in my sons school has been sent home 6 times for a 10 day isolation period, despite many of them have had confirmed covid. That is 36 days off school minimum taking into account weekends on top of all the time they have been off school anyway and some of these children need the safety of school. We have been quite fortunate only having to isolate once but it's more luck than judgement. People on low pay especially having to isolate must have a devastating impact.

Nezumi, I hope your sons care team are all back at work soon

This pilot scheme has absolutely nothing to do with the App.
It only applies if you are rang by Test and Trace.

So how come Test & Trace and the app are completely unconnected? Another novel feature from our £37 billions worth of public investment?

What if you're pinged and rung?

And, do you understand how bogus this 'trial' is?

The word you're looking for is 'rung', BTW

MaizieD

Aaah, Sunak has just announced that he's not going to take part in the 'trial', he's going to self isolate like everyone else has to.

--polishing his halo for he leadership bid--

Let’s hope so, first non-whitePM of U.K. how refreshing!

MaizieD

Aaah, Sunak has just announced that he's not going to take part in the 'trial', he's going to self isolate like everyone else has to.

--polishing his halo for he leadership bid--

And there we have it. Shiny new person ??. ?‍♀️

Aaah, Sunak has just announced that he's not going to take part in the 'trial', he's going to self isolate like everyone else has to.

polishing his halo for he leadership bid