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End of self isolation?

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Daisymae Sun 18-Jul-21 08:37:30

Apparently Johnson and Sunak are not self isolating despite being pinged after contact with Javid, according to the guardian today. I suspect that probably means others will consider it optional?

Casdon Sun 18-Jul-21 20:18:48

Maybe. I just had a look at their government data sets, and the way it’s presented is excellent, there are some really interesting graphs about the Government actions linked to the infection rate graph, it would be good to see similar for the UK.
www.gov.je/Health/Coronavirus/CoronavirusDocuments/ID%20Coronavirus%20weekly%20update.pdf

GrannyGravy13 Sun 18-Jul-21 20:09:42

Kali2

Self isolating at Chequers will be a real ordeal- for sure!

For once I agree, quarantining in our house or any of our AC homes, easy peasey.
Quarantine in an inner city high rise flat with children would be horrendous, particularly in this heat.
Time for the isolation/quarantine guidelines to be be reviewed.

rosie1959 Sun 18-Jul-21 20:00:37

Caslon I presume they need people working too much isolation on such a small Island could be very detrimental

Casdon Sun 18-Jul-21 19:48:08

Sorry Rosie1959 you’re right, I looked at the trajectory, but didn’t notice the graph only went up to 2nd July. The vaccination levels are lower than the UK, so it is very brave of them to drop the isolation requirements.

rosie1959 Sun 18-Jul-21 19:38:35

The case rates in Jersey are around 200 + per day according to the Government of Jersey website
Someone asked if anywhere had dropped isolation on contact well they have
Obviously a different scale

Casdon Sun 18-Jul-21 19:06:30

The case rate in Jersey is averaging less than 30 a day. It’s a completely different scale.

rosie1959 Sun 18-Jul-21 18:46:53

Isolation on contact has to be changed so it is a good thing they are looking at this Perfectly healthy people having to stay off work is not ideal
They are already doing it in Jersey like us they have had an increase in cases and their testing facilities have been under a strain. Also lateral flow tests are not freely available like they are here

Kali2 Sun 18-Jul-21 18:34:05

Self isolating at Chequers will be a real ordeal- for sure!

FarNorth Sun 18-Jul-21 15:58:35

I've never heard of government ministers being the first to trial public health measures - but maybe it's the new normal!

HolySox Sun 18-Jul-21 13:27:04

FarNorth that would be a sensible first step. Don't know if they took that one. Point being if we stay on course come mid-Aug this could be what we're doing. It will avoid so many self-isolating.

FarNorth Sun 18-Jul-21 13:18:31

Is not one of the new 'freedom' steps to be contacts of people who test positive need not self-isolate if they have been double jabbed? If so it is good the government is trialling this before allowing everyone to do this.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to monitor double-jabbed people who have been contacts, while they are isolating, to determine the possible risk - before starting to do this in real life?

Has that already been done?

Jaxjacky Sun 18-Jul-21 12:14:54

Nezumi65 in our local paper a nearby pub where all of the staff have switched off the app at work and are lateral testing before each shift.

vegansrock Sun 18-Jul-21 12:12:06

It was a U turn when they realised how it would go down with the public. Also given they’ve both got mansions to isolate in no great hardship, it also gets Johnson out of giving a “Churchillian” speech about freedom, no doubt penned for him by his creative team

Blossoming Sun 18-Jul-21 12:08:40

Quick u-turn (again)

www.smh.com.au/world/europe/britain-hits-vaccine-for-all-adults-target-as-health-minister-tests-positive-for-covid-20210718-p58aor.html

MawBe Sun 18-Jul-21 12:06:28

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HolySox Sun 18-Jul-21 12:04:47

Nezumi65

It’s been a populist party since Johnson became PM. God help us all.

Keep hearing this phrase 'populist' supposedly to denegrate our government. Surely populist means listening to the people, doing things to please them, giving the general public what they want. Isn't that the basis of democracy? Surely trying to be popular is exactly what we should expect of a democratic government.

HolySox Sun 18-Jul-21 11:55:41

Is not one of the new 'freedom' steps to be contacts of people who test positive need not self-isolate if they have been double jabbed? If so it is good the government is trialling this before allowing everyone to do this. Certainly would expect government people to be involved in the trial as they will be very carefully monitored. Sensible plan. If it were junior ministers and civil servants rather than the PM and the Chancellor publicised for 'trialling' this approach, I wonder if there would be such an outcry.

25Avalon Sun 18-Jul-21 11:38:26

MerylStreep

Your scraping the barrel when you have to resort to pointing out spelling/ grammatical errors to score a point.
Bit sad really ?

There was a time when anything on GN was scrutinised and criticised by some GNetters who were sticklers for grammar, spelling and punctuation regardless of the subject.

Nezumi65 Sun 18-Jul-21 11:33:28

It’s been a populist party since Johnson became PM. God help us all.

Nezumi65 Sun 18-Jul-21 11:31:39

Yes I agree Rosie and tbh I don’t think they have much choice. But it demonstrates the danger of this government approach to people like my son. Too many pings for people to use the app, so mixing with vulnerable people when really they should be isolating.

rosie1959 Sun 18-Jul-21 11:27:33

Nezumi65 I suspect many have deleted the app I have

Daisymae Sun 18-Jul-21 11:26:27

This government seems to be ruled by populism. Straw poll this morning and a quick change of plan.

Nezumi65 Sun 18-Jul-21 11:26:01

And honestly the 20 something age group seem to get pinged every tine they go out - it is rife in that age group.

Nezumi65 Sun 18-Jul-21 11:24:53

I do think NHS & social care staff need to be exempt from this or parts of it are going to collapse. My son’s care team are all young & all therefore go to bars/pubs & will therefore be pinged. My son requires 24 hour 2:1 specialist care. It’s a problem.

He has not be vaccinated (have tried, hasn’t been successful yet). His team are all vaccinated but I know plenty who have caught it after vaccination.

Think it just shows how risky this whole ‘freedom’ approach is for some. He has to have care, but if he catches Covid & requires treatment he would not be prioritised because he has a learning disability. Obeying the pings is risky for him as is ignoring them.

Daisymae Sun 18-Jul-21 11:22:10

Seems that a quick look at social media this morning and plans are reversed. There seems to be a credibility gap where the government should be.