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ExDancer Mon 20-Sep-21 10:27:56

I very much doubt if reading this will influence a dedicated non-vaccinate diehard, but it gives me a few more arrows to my bow when people give me a load of rubbish in favour of not accepting the vaccine.

Copied from friend :
I'm vaccinated and, no, I don't exactly know what's in it - neither this vaccine, the ones I had as a child and adult, or in other treatments. Whether it's for cancer, AIDS or vaccines for infants or children. I also don't know what's in other over-counter-medications, it just cures my ailments.

I don't know what's in the ink for tattoos, or every ingredient in my soap or shampoo or even deodorants. I don’t know the long term effect of mobile phone use or whether or not that restaurant I just ate at used clean foods and washed their hands.

I also don’t know how much deadly asbestos is in the buildings I visit.

In short ...
There's a lot of things I don't know and never will.
I just know one thing: life is very short, and I still want to do something other than just going to work every day or having others in our community and country locked in their homes. I still want to travel.

As a child and as an adult I've been vaccinated for mumps, measles, rubella, diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, hep A and B, small pox, polio, chicken pox, tetanus, influenza and quite a few others. My parents and I trusted the science.

I'm vaccinated, not to please the government but:
* To not die or become seriously ill from Covid-19.
* To not clutter a hospital bed if I get sick.
* To live my life.
* To have my community and country get back to normal.
* For Covid-19 to be an old memory, as it will.
* To protect us all.
Text copied, you can too. 😉

Tickledpink Fri 08-Oct-21 22:59:37

Excellent post ✔️ ✔️✔️

Whiff Sun 03-Oct-21 10:26:52

Only just read the OP post it's brilliant exactly how I felt about things.

lemsip Sat 02-Oct-21 22:18:57

Read this in DM
Anti-vaxxer young mum, 24, 'who was hooked on conspiracy theories' dies of Covid after admitting not getting jab was the 'worst mistake of her life'

The family of 24-year-old Abby Gibbs, who said not getting the jab was the 'worst mistake of her life', passed away following an almost three-week battle in intensive care in Durham.

GagaJo Tue 28-Sep-21 14:49:05


I am vaccinated as I have asthma but I will NOT go for lateral testing twice a week. The reason I got the vaccine is to get my freedom back and I call testing twice a week putting yourself at risk of having to isolate.

Height of selfishness, being positive for Covid and not isolating. Attitudes like this are why the UK has such a high rate.

jocork Tue 28-Sep-21 14:36:03


I am vaccinated as I have asthma but I will NOT go for lateral testing twice a week. The reason I got the vaccine is to get my freedom back and I call testing twice a week putting yourself at risk of having to isolate.

Sadly it is that very selfish attitude that keeps this pandemic going! I've been double vaccinated to protect myself AND OTHERS. I carry out regular lateral flows before going out and meeting others. I sing in a choir and we have all been asked to test within 24 hours before each practice for the benefit of others. I didn't go this week as I wasn't feeling brilliant and although my lateral flow was negative I went for a pcr too to be on the safe side and am waiting for the result now. Hopefully it will be negative and I will have missed two social interactions and one volunteering role for nothing, but if it's positive I couldn't live with myself if I passed it on to someone vulnerable and killed them! That is what it comes down to at the end of the day.

Also being doubly vaccinated doesn't make us invincible. I have a number of doubly vaccinated friends who still caught it but they are all still here. One probably wouldn't have been without the vaccine as he is vulnerable and is recovering much more slowly. Please, please consider regular testing rather than being an 'I'm alright Jack' person!

Davida1968 Tue 28-Sep-21 13:09:43

Brilliant! xx

Jewelswalk Tue 28-Sep-21 10:38:23


Anti vaxxers - foolish people. If they be become very ill with Covid they will expect our overstretched NHS to care for them. I have no patience with their decision. On one hand I wish to respect their right to refuse vaccination but they have no right to refuse vaccination , catch it and pass it on . They will probably end up in hospital and possibly require intensive care. I am waiting to be called for my booster!!!!

Good for you. I hope you don't catch covid and pass it on.

Nannan2 Thu 23-Sep-21 00:39:24

I told the dental reception 'manager' to add the covid jabs as well (its been almost years since last dentist visit) to my sons 'medical changes', then also said he had pneumonia jab too last year- she asked "did he need it?"- being in a medical capacity you'd have thought she would have supported anyone being as protected as possible, not questioning our choices- Not that its any of her business really. I was speechless..Made herself sound like a real anti-vaxxer. I'm going to ask her outright, in front of the dentist, when we return next week.🤨

Nergard Wed 22-Sep-21 16:30:47

My daughter is a teacher and caught Covid in March 2020 which turned into Long Covid. She was turned away from the test centre for not being ill enough to be hospitalised at the time. She is slowly recovering but can only work 3 days a week so it is not only about dying from it but being young and left with health problems which will take years to recover from.

travelsafar Wed 22-Sep-21 11:49:08

My DH and i both had the virus over Christmas last year and were hospitlized. This was before we were called to be vaccinated. Sadly he died, he had underlying health issues and didn't really stand a chance. I have been left a widow and have mobility issues. I already had arthritis but i am sure the virus has affected my joints and made things worse. I now have an issue with my heart and have to take medication for this. If you don't want this happening to you or someone you know, go get the vaccine...please.

GillT57 Wed 22-Sep-21 11:48:42

I don't know any youngsters who are refusing the vaccine, to the contrary, my AC and their partners and friends were all impatient to get it. The only anti vaxxers I know are a couple in their early 60s, plus one woman of 80 who has reluctantly had the vaccine in order to get her social life back on track.

annodomini Wed 22-Sep-21 11:32:03

I call testing twice a week putting yourself at risk of having to isolate

But...*songstress60*, if you were isolated after a lateral flow test, surely that would be for the reason that you had tested positive for covid19 and would need to be isolated. I just don't get the logic of your objection to the tests.

songstress60 Wed 22-Sep-21 11:05:23

I am vaccinated as I have asthma but I will NOT go for lateral testing twice a week. The reason I got the vaccine is to get my freedom back and I call testing twice a week putting yourself at risk of having to isolate.

honeyrose Wed 22-Sep-21 09:03:54

That’s brilliant, ExDancer. I’ve copied it to show to the friend of a friend who’s an antivaccer.

hereshoping Wed 22-Sep-21 08:33:26

And a very big THANK YOU to all those brave 80 and 90 year olds who had there vaccinations ahead of us and showed us all how safe it was.

PippaZ Tue 21-Sep-21 23:27:17


I love the fact that youngsters (late teens, 20s 30s) won't take the vaccine as they don't know what's in it but are quite happy buying pills in the toilets at bars/clubs for a fun high!!!

Is that what your young adults do? My AGCs don't and they are all vacinated and they have to take regular tests for their jobs. Poor you.

Milliedog Tue 21-Sep-21 20:41:15

Anyone knowing an antivaxxer, send them to me. I caught Covid in January, a few weeks before I was called for the vaccine. I seemed to recover then Long Covid hit me like a ton of bricks. Previously healthy and active, I now can just about manage a slowish 15 minute walk. Then my chest tightens and I start to wheeze. There are days when I cough a lot. There are days when I decide to take off my bra because it's feeling way too tight and I'm breathless - then I realise I'm not wearing a bra. Yes. There are a few people who react badly to the vaccine. But there are thousands of us, who, although we've had a mild dose of coronovirus, are now suffering with Long Covid. I feel very blessed. Some Long Covid sufferers have been bed bound since the first wave. If you haven't yet had the vaccine, run to the nearest vaccination centre. You really don't want to get this.

Janetashbolt Tue 21-Sep-21 20:07:58

I love the fact that youngsters (late teens, 20s 30s) won't take the vaccine as they don't know what's in it but are quite happy buying pills in the toilets at bars/clubs for a fun high!!!

Freda65 Tue 21-Sep-21 19:09:29

Excellent post...
If only others could grasp the reality and ambiguity in life that this lady so clearly articulates...
Well done her!!

Happysexagenarian Tue 21-Sep-21 18:28:59

A very good argument ExDancer, totally agree.

Ro60 Tue 21-Sep-21 18:25:49

👍 Thank you ExDancer

Tickingbird I wish money would stick to me - maybe it will after the 3rd vaccine 😂

Paperbackwriter Tue 21-Sep-21 18:16:12


Those who refuse to be vaccinated should therefore be refused hospital treatment if they get COVID .....simples

Hmm... that's a hugely unpleasant and very slippery slope. I mean, where do you stop with that. Would you extend withholding treatment to smokers or those who take part in contact sports?

Paperbackwriter Tue 21-Sep-21 18:12:54


A neighbour was ranting recently about abuse of children i.e parents wanting vaccinations for their children and that David Icke was right....

I really am at a loss about the viewpoint of so many and am more convinced than ever about the potential dangers of social media.

Don't you just love it that there are so many people out there who are willing to get their scientific advice from an ex-reserve goalkeeper rather than those who really know what they're talking about? I guess natural selection will sort it all out eventually!

Galaxy Tue 21-Sep-21 18:11:05

A woman in our area died from complications from the vaccine, she had two very young sons, she was in her 30s the likelyhood of her dying from covid was low to be honest. If her sons grow up with some vaccine hesitancy I hope they are treated with empathy and understanding rather than with no patience. There are many reasons why people might be hesitant, education and support is more likely to help rather than judgement.

Wheniwasyourage Tue 21-Sep-21 17:51:23

Thank you ExDancer. How very sensible. I don't know any anti-vaxxers, I'm happy to say, or I might say something I would regret. One of my AC had covid before the vaccine was available, and another (who had had both doses) had it recently. The first was quite ill, but fortunately recovered, but the second said it was no worse than a bad cold.

We're waiting for our boosters, although if it was decided to give them to another country where even the health care workers have had no vaccine, that would be ok too.