Why are there around thirty thousand new COVID-19 cases reported every day in the UK?

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What do you think GNers, is this a good source of info about COVID data?

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Interesting interview in the US about whether or not COVID-deaths data is being manipulated for profit.

www.theepochtimes.com/is-covid-deaths-data-being-manipulated-for-profit-doctor-sues-university-over-mandatory-vaccine-policy_4009446.html

Well it's ripping through our local primary schools at the moment now the kids have gone back and are mixing. These are the under 12's who aren't even going to be vaccinated. Last week 23/30 in one class were off having tested positive for it and it's rippling round into the others. Yes the kids might not get it that bad, but they sure can spread it as has been proved.

Vaccine passports do seem a waste of time we have a high vaccination rate of uk adults and vaccination does not stop transmission completely

4allweknow

*Germanshepherdsmum * Scotland is introducing vaccine passports for night club entry but the same law does not force these establishments to actually check everyone. Would be far too time-consuming and costly. Sounds good but really a waste of time..

Better than doing nothing though. At least the Scottish government attempts to be proactive, something the English government is incapable of. A prime example being people travelling up to Scotland from London and having to put a mask on at the border.

Germanshepherdsmum Scotland is introducing vaccine passports for night club entry but the same law does not force these establishments to actually check everyone. Would be far too time-consuming and costly. Sounds good but really a waste of time..

So much of this hysteria could be prevented if we all realise that we can do all we can to minimise it,

I'm not altogether sure who you think is being 'hysterical'. Is it me because covid can have life changing long term effects, is known to affect the brain and other internal organs and I don't think our children and young people should be exposed to that risk.

There aren't any bloody mitigations' in schools to minimise the risk. And nobody seems to care.. just call people who do hysterical.

I have just one grandson. He is precious to me and to his family. I don't care to think of this lively sporty child having his life altered by catching covid and being one of the unfortunate ones who is severely damaged by it. And I don't wish that fate on anyone else's grandchildren either.

Amalegra

It seems to be a commonly held misconception that double vaccination prevents you from getting or spreading the virus. What it does is prevent hospitalisation and. severe illness/ death in the vast majority of people. Even the scare stories of ‘hospitalisations’ reported by our ever-eager MSM fail to mention that ‘admission’ may mean just a day or even a walk in/out visit. My son, his partner, my daughter, her partner were all double jabbed and yet caught Covid. They barely knew they had it, just felt a bit off-colour, not even as bad as a cold. A neighbour of mine’s husband, double jabbed, caught it, was hospitalised and very sadly died in his forties with no underlying conditions. So much of this hysteria could be prevented if we all realise that we can do all we can to minimise it, but risk is present in everything we do, even if we take all sensible precautions! You don’t stop driving because you fear someone will crash into you and kill you despite your seatbelt, after all. We need to realise Covid is here to stay, be sensible and above all stop being so frightened.

How can you point out that a forty year old person ( pretty young by my standards) with no underlying health problems caught covid and died and that is a reason why we should all stop being hysterical and frightened? Seems like a good reason to be so .

I for one am not at all puzzled by the constant 30000 plus cases. Are you not aware that the majority of people in this country, as perhaps world wide, who knows, are completely unable to fathom the reality of the pandemic situation, and, mostly consider themselves and not other people, thinking themselves fireproof, as the saying goes.
Perhaps they did not vote for Brexit either.

It seems to be a commonly held misconception that double vaccination prevents you from getting or spreading the virus. What it does is prevent hospitalisation and. severe illness/ death in the vast majority of people. Even the scare stories of ‘hospitalisations’ reported by our ever-eager MSM fail to mention that ‘admission’ may mean just a day or even a walk in/out visit. My son, his partner, my daughter, her partner were all double jabbed and yet caught Covid. They barely knew they had it, just felt a bit off-colour, not even as bad as a cold. A neighbour of mine’s husband, double jabbed, caught it, was hospitalised and very sadly died in his forties with no underlying conditions. So much of this hysteria could be prevented if we all realise that we can do all we can to minimise it, but risk is present in everything we do, even if we take all sensible precautions! You don’t stop driving because you fear someone will crash into you and kill you despite your seatbelt, after all. We need to realise Covid is here to stay, be sensible and above all stop being so frightened.

I don't know anyone who has had Covid recently

Josianne

The rules are now so inconsistent though. At 3 pm I will pick up my little GD from school where none of the children are vaccinated and no one wears masks. I will drive her to her ballet class at a secondary school 5 minutes away where we all have to wear masks, even waiting outside in the car park before we go in. I will then take her to her favourite café for a hot chocolate and cake, no masks required, before picking up some fruit for her in the green grocer's where you aren't allowed to darken the door without a mask and where you have to stand on the spots.

Not so much inconsistent as far as Government rules go but individual businesses and venues laying down their version of the rules which of course they can do

Wise words as always BlueBelle

My daughter is a teacher at a secondary school, she has covid right now, double jabbed, mid thirties and pretty unwell. Her two little ones both have it too. I am grateful that my daughter got double jabbed, I'd hate to think how she'd be without them. The children (especially the two year old) are pretty poorly too. It is inevitable that the disease will spread now schools are running properly again. Most of us will be ok and we have to engage with life again for so many reasons. I am not worried, I ahve had my jabs and have antibodies from the infection (which I believe I got in late 2019). My other daughter and her fiance, who live with me had it and I didn't get it. Proof to me that antibodies are needed. I am helping my daughter and the children and pretty confident that I will be ok. They need me right now.

Cases mean nothing ?just much higher scary number than deaths with it or hospital numbers! Don’t worry about it that’s what they want ?

The rules are now so inconsistent though. At 3 pm I will pick up my little GD from school where none of the children are vaccinated and no one wears masks. I will drive her to her ballet class at a secondary school 5 minutes away where we all have to wear masks, even waiting outside in the car park before we go in. I will then take her to her favourite café for a hot chocolate and cake, no masks required, before picking up some fruit for her in the green grocer's where you aren't allowed to darken the door without a mask and where you have to stand on the spots.

Doom and Gloom

Shrub

Does anyone know the age range of those contracting Covid at the moment? Is it mainly teenagers and younger children? Or young adults?

Shrub My nephew and wife both currently have covid. Both are early 40s and both are double jabbed.

Alegrias1

Its like a stuck record.

www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsfrominfluenzaandcovid19in2020and2021

Extract attached. Not that I expect the provision of facts will make any difference at all to the conspiracy theorists.

I don’t suppose it will Aleg but I find these facts reassuring so please keep posting. I like to know the truth and so do many other Gransnetters I think.

Friend of ours caught it and isolated for 5days. He just felt a bit tough and lost sense of smell for few days. Bit like a cold.BUT and it's a big one-he's had 2vaccines and was not bad enough to go into hospital or worse- he was not critical or demised.... That's the difference.is uppose like millions catch a cold and the few unfortunates get pneumonia etc and are seriously ill?

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD I watched an interview on BBC news with a Professor who is on SAGE, just after JCVI announced that they didn’t have conclusive evidence to support the vaccination of under 16’s.

He’s reasoning has stayed with me, basically he said are we as a nation vaccinating under 16’s in order to protect others and keep schools open or are we vaccinating them to protect themselves.

Keeping schools open seems to be a good reason to vaccinate to me. Children of 12 and above have been vaccinated in many other countries now with few side effects. The heart problem is extremely rare and treatable. Destroying children’s life chances by constantly disrupting their education is morally wrong when a good vaccine is available. I think younger children will be vaccinated too in due course. The UK were right to be cautious about vaccinating children, but there is sufficient evidence out there now. To be highly moralistic about vaccinating children to help others is disgraceful. We are society and we help one another, including not having hundreds of thousands of children missing their education and life chances.

12 -15 year old are being offered the vaccination in UK now it's being done at schools. They have even said if a child wants it they can over rule their parents. As long as they can prove they understand.

I know six people who have had covid recently. Five were double vaccinated. The sixth one was was a twelve year old girl. She has not been too ill though she is still coughing, but the others were pretty ill. Five did not need to be hospitalised. But the sixth person did and died. These people were largely shielding and wearing masks. One thinks he got it in a taxi. Another thinks he may have got it in a supermarket or on a bus where people were not wearing masks. I don’t think it interferes significantly with lives or businesses if the public wear masks indoors. It enables older and more vulnerable people to have a little more chance to also have some life experiences. I was at a day clinic in hospital recently. All staff and patients were wearing masks and distanced while waiting. But in the cafeteria area, all the tables were full of people sitting crammed together cheerfully eating and drinking and chatting their heads off. Many seemed elderly and overweight, both supposedly risk factors.

Its like a stuck record.

www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsfrominfluenzaandcovid19in2020and2021

Extract attached. Not that I expect the provision of facts will make any difference at all to the conspiracy theorists.

Do you really believe these figures are true?? What happened to flu?? Not one person seems to have been admitted at died in hospital with the flu, in fact , it seems to have been eradicated altogether.