The Autumn Spike?

Alegrias1

I'd like to say something about Dr Campbell. I know many people disagree with me about him and his videos, and at the start he definitely got things right early on. However his latest video, from yesterday, is dangerous nonsense.

He is still advocating Ivermectin, a position that encourages people who believe in quack cures. He sarcastically tries to discredit the lead author in a BBC journalistic review of the research, seemingly thinking that this will discredit the actual academic research. He then dismisses an academic meta study, focussing to begin with on the fact that the lead author is "just" a student. Seemingly unaware of the lead author's credentials and even the fact that it is standard practice in academia to credit the person who does the work as the lead author, even though they are not the most senior person on the paper. (I speak from personal experience.)

He has lost the way and is becoming dangerous.

This is actually a case of me listening to his blog and not necessarily agreeing with him. I think he sometimes misses the wider picture in that anti vacc’ers are using ivermectin as a way of arguing against vaccination and they need to be discredited. And some people are buying it off the internet and taking the wrong dose. This needs to stop. On the other hand I’m still deeply suspicious that the covid treatments that are being widely used are the most profit making ones and for that reason I do question some things albeit trying not to voice my opinion in case I’m doing the same thing and adding to the anti vacc’ers arguements. However, you must surely agree that, going right back to January of last year if people had listened to DrJohn we wouldn’t now have a pandemic. And, if he gets things wrong he does admit to it, something other so called experts never do. He did point out that people were asymptomatic carriers very early on in the pandemic. And that people shouldn’t stop wearing masks etc. I think his common senses blogs far outweigh the sensationalist ones. And I did read somewhere yesterday ( it wasn’t about covid, it may have been about Dupuytrans and someone was asking which vitamins they should take) that a lot of people were deficient in VitD and zinc.

PippaZ

No comment on the quote from anyone on the methods NSW Australia are using. This is a slightly less robust version: www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiuNHuxLOR8

The state is saying this is a virus of the unvaccinated who will not get the freedoms as the State opens up.

In the Twitter post the author was almost screaming her anger from the page at this happening. I don't see it as any different to people having to go into isolation hospitals in the past. I am usually very pro our "rights" and am wondering why I feel that way over this.

Help!

I did read it and have been thinking about it but haven’t reached a conclusion of any kind. Possibly because I’m being ridiculed so much on facebook by anti vacc’ers/maskers that I find it hard to sympathise with anyone that refuses to have a vaccine unless they have a good reason. In which case it’s wrong for them to be ostracised. I think Australia are desperate to open up for travel again. Maybe they shouldn’t have been so slow vaccinating people though and were, if I remember right critical of the AZ vaccine which put people off being vaccinated and made it an uphill struggle to then get them to do so.

I understand why someone with breathing difficulties can't wear a mask - why can't they use one of those perspex screens?
I know they don't give anything like as good protection as masks - but at least it shows you're trying.
People seem to have forgotten you wear the mask principally to protect others - not yourself.

No comment on the quote from anyone on the methods NSW Australia are using. This is a slightly less robust version: www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiuNHuxLOR8

The state is saying this is a virus of the unvaccinated who will not get the freedoms as the State opens up.

In the Twitter post the author was almost screaming her anger from the page at this happening. I don't see it as any different to people having to go into isolation hospitals in the past. I am usually very pro our "rights" and am wondering why I feel that way over this.

Help!

Daisymae, I don't think problems with the testing are our main concern. There are now so many people who are double jabbed, maybe with a booster too, with asymptomatic Covid.

They won't be getting tested - yet are capable of spreading the virus nonetheless. They've stopped wearing masks, hand washing, sanitising and reducing contact (especially indoors).

As colder weather hits us, they won't be opening windows either. It looks like perfect conditions for another surge in cases - but I do hope I'm wrong!

And now the majority and educated view is that its not worth using. Whatever St John says.

The efficacy of Ivermectin has been bubbling along just under the surface for over a year. There does seem to be so many differing views.

I'd like to say something about Dr Campbell. I know many people disagree with me about him and his videos, and at the start he definitely got things right early on. However his latest video, from yesterday, is dangerous nonsense.

He is still advocating Ivermectin, a position that encourages people who believe in quack cures. He sarcastically tries to discredit the lead author in a BBC journalistic review of the research, seemingly thinking that this will discredit the actual academic research. He then dismisses an academic meta study, focussing to begin with on the fact that the lead author is "just" a student. Seemingly unaware of the lead author's credentials and even the fact that it is standard practice in academia to credit the person who does the work as the lead author, even though they are not the most senior person on the paper. (I speak from personal experience.)

He has lost the way and is becoming dangerous.

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NSW, Australia.

Pippa I agree. Wanting it to be over, and it being over are two different things. I’m a bit disillusioned I thought we might be in a better place by now. Nonetheless we get on with our lives and we try to be careful, but not staying at home all the time sort of careful. We’ve had two holidays, one abroad, and we eat out from time to time. We associate with our family, but I have rather less association with my friends. I’ve been to the cinema twice with my grandson but much as I love theatre we won’t go there yet. I don’t generally use public transport, but have used planes to go abroad, and a train to go to London one day. I never use buses or any other sort of public transport regularly.

If mask wearing, good ventilation and air filtering had been pushed as hard as 'sanitising' we could be in a better place now.

Exactly MaizieD.
It annoys me that so many small shops and offices have not at least had their doors open during good weather, yet all have the squirty stuff there.

But it's not over. We have to pick ourselves up and carry on while the various crises continue - about another three years, in my estimation. How we do that will differ from person to person; some will fail to cope from time to time - even GP receptionists. I have just been listening to the level of abuse NHS staff are getting. It seems many have a short fuse at the moment.

I couldn't agree more - I want it to be over. We now have Professor Harris talking about the forthcoming "Twindemic". For heavens sake I am sick of it, the worry etc. I have my flu jab on Wednesday.
I had to go to the walk in medical centre last Friday, no appointments to either see/talk to a dr for 2 weeks. The receptionist asked various questions, including "any covid symptons", I said no, and I have had both covid vaccinations - he just rolled his eyes! Doesn't instil much confidence.

No problem Maybee70 we are not where we were this time last year things are improving.
I tend to just on with life as normal now not letting the pandemic change things any more than necessary life's to short and with a fair wind and all these vacinations it won't kill me off any time soon

Oh yes MayBee I second that. I just want it to stop, I’ve had enough of it now.

I didn’t mean to be snappy rosie x ( I just want this pandemic to be over…I’m so tired of it!)

Just trying to be helpful obviously not needed
Sometimes think this site is like a parallel universe lol

rosie1959

MayBee70

I’ve actually spent a couple of days pondering on posts I’ve made where I’ve been hanging onto every word issued by ‘the scientists’ and, apart from Dr John (who I admit listening to and whose advice I take), I can’t remember doing so. I’d be really grateful if someone could dig up something I’ve written to that effect. I do know I was trying to purchase face masks at a time when the WHO and even JVT were saying they didn’t work so I certainly wasn’t agreeing with the scientists then and I was angry with Witty for stopping testing and tracing last spring because it was ‘already in the community’. And I did listen to the alternative SAGE group.

Not sure how to go back on this site but if you put Maybee70 masks in your search engine ie Google all your posts on masks should come up. I found them there's quite a few but you may know exactly what you are looking for

To sounds a bit to close to stalking for comfort

Will be having our Flu jabs soon. I am quite concerned about the flu/covid combo hitting the country.

To be honest I can’t be bothered to. I thought the people that seem to remember all the things I’ve written would be able to remind me!

MayBee70

I’ve actually spent a couple of days pondering on posts I’ve made where I’ve been hanging onto every word issued by ‘the scientists’ and, apart from Dr John (who I admit listening to and whose advice I take), I can’t remember doing so. I’d be really grateful if someone could dig up something I’ve written to that effect. I do know I was trying to purchase face masks at a time when the WHO and even JVT were saying they didn’t work so I certainly wasn’t agreeing with the scientists then and I was angry with Witty for stopping testing and tracing last spring because it was ‘already in the community’. And I did listen to the alternative SAGE group.

Not sure how to go back on this site but if you put Maybee70 masks in your search engine ie Google all your posts on masks should come up. I found them there's quite a few but you may know exactly what you are looking for

I’ve actually spent a couple of days pondering on posts I’ve made where I’ve been hanging onto every word issued by ‘the scientists’ and, apart from Dr John (who I admit listening to and whose advice I take), I can’t remember doing so. I’d be really grateful if someone could dig up something I’ve written to that effect. I do know I was trying to purchase face masks at a time when the WHO and even JVT were saying they didn’t work so I certainly wasn’t agreeing with the scientists then and I was angry with Witty for stopping testing and tracing last spring because it was ‘already in the community’. And I did listen to the alternative SAGE group.

MerylStreep

MayBee70
At the start of the pandemic last year ( and beyond) you hung onto every word and utterance that the expert’s uttered.
If the virus is out of control where are they now? Why aren’t they telling us what terrible danger we’re in.

Do I detect a note of sarcasm about the fact that me and my family have done everything possible to protect ourselves from the virus? Does it amuse you ?

MerylStreep

MayBee70
At the start of the pandemic last year ( and beyond) you hung onto every word and utterance that the expert’s uttered.
If the virus is out of control where are they now? Why aren’t they telling us what terrible danger we’re in.

I hung onto every word that DrJohn Campbell uttered. I still do. He was advocating mask wearing at a time when the WHO and even JVT were saying masks didn’t help. I still do everything possible to not catch it: hands face space ventilate.

The figures this week say that 1 in 14 secondary age children are infected. This is being passed on to fully vaccinated parents who are not able to work as normal. In my GDs Year 11, one hundred students have it.
This is not happening in countries where secondary age children were vaccinated in the summer holidays, masks are worn and restrictions are in place. The rates of infection in other European countries are between seven and ten times lower, children are in school, parents are at work.
On here I see excuses about too much testing, waiting for vaccination data which were already available from other countries, other countries don't test as much and the government is doing its best.
If children are unwell and missing school, parents are unwell and unable to work, how can this be good enough?