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Young ones and corona virus

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Maggiemaybe Tue 12-Oct-21 09:28:06

From the British Medical Journal:

of 40 000 patients with covid-19 who were admitted to hospital between December 2020 and July 2021 a total of 33 496 (84%) had not been vaccinated. It found that 5198 (13%) of these patients had received their first vaccine and 1274 (3%) their second.

Scones Tue 12-Oct-21 09:17:50

Calling people who don't agree with you bozos is not a way forward.

Our British wards have plenty of people in them who are older and double vaccinated. The blame is not as simple to allocate as you would like to make it.

CafeAuLait Tue 12-Oct-21 08:31:54

So then smokers, drinkers, the overweight, those who eat too much sugar, etc, should also get lower priority? Maybe it's just as well the system doesn't work that way.

Galaxy Tue 12-Oct-21 08:10:10

If you apply that to other health conditions, pretty much no one would receive treatment. Someone in my family had a heart attack, they didnt smoke, drink, werent obese, however they approached their job in such a way that it most likely contributed to their illness, will they be low down on the priority list?

SpanielNanny Tue 12-Oct-21 07:59:33

The problem with this, is where does it stop? Should a smoker be lower down on the list of cancer treatments? We’ve known for several decades the dangers associated with it. Same for skin cancer, should a person who has enjoyed many foreign holidays, thus exposing themselves to sun damage, be told no, while the person who chose to avoid the sun gets treated?
My dil recently suffered pregnancy complications (thankfully fully resolved). She’s fit, active and a healthy weight. By coincidence, my niece had a very similar problem. She is considerably overweight, should she have been turned away, because there is an argument that her ‘choices’ hugely impacted her health.

Would you want to be sitting in A&E and have a doctor decide between you, and the person next to you based on their own moral code? To be told that unfortunately you wouldn’t be permitted a bed. They’ve compared you with another patient and, while you have enjoyed a croissant on a Sunday morning, they’ve followed a low fat, low sugar diet. They do more exercise than you, and so their ‘choices’ have made them more deserving of a bed? It may sound extreme, but I fear that what you’re suggesting would be the start of a slippery slope.

Taylor2016 Tue 12-Oct-21 02:22:30

I feel that each person is entitled to make personal choices, however said people(anti vaxxers ) then sign a legal document to say they won't require health treatment should they contract COVID-19.

nanna8 Tue 12-Oct-21 00:53:30

I have a granddaughter who is working very, very hard on a Covid ward in the city here in Melbourne. She said their ward was full of young anti Vaxxers who are getting very sick. She thinks if these people had just spent an hour in the ward they would change their minds pretty quickly. What concerns me is that it is now harder for people to get into hospital for essential treatment because these selfish people are occupying many of the beds. Should they be put down lower on a priority list do you think? Why should some cancer sufferers be made to wait longer and possibly put their lives at risk because of these bozos ?