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New variant has emerged in Africa, should we be worried?

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maddyone Thu 25-Nov-21 23:25:55

Just that really. A new coronavirus variant has been discovered in South Africa, and has already spread to other countries, including Hong Kong. It is reported that scientists are very concerned about this variant because it has more than 30 mutations which may make it more transmissible and enable it to evade vaccinations more easily.
Should we be worried?

rosie1959 Wed 01-Dec-21 08:23:29

Lol Josianne I think if a pub is having a party like that then enforcing face masks is going to be futile and the Government realise this
It was easier with reduced numbers and social distancing

Josianne Wed 01-Dec-21 08:11:19

Oops rosie1959 sorry! Not a morning hangover!

Josianne Wed 01-Dec-21 08:10:24

I was picturing more milling round at the bar, and shouting and dancing with mates, or even strangers, at Christmas pub festivities Kate1959*!

rosie1959 Wed 01-Dec-21 08:06:05

In pubs ruddy autocorrect

rosie1959 Wed 01-Dec-21 08:05:05

I can see the sense in this when it was masks I'm pubs they were only worn to enter the pub once you sat down they came off. Now pubs and restaurants are pretty full I cannot see how wearing one just to enter the building will make that much difference

Josianne Wed 01-Dec-21 07:57:02

And there's not much sense in wearing masks in shops but not in pubs.

rosie1959 Wed 01-Dec-21 07:55:49

I find the idea of anywhere enforcing masks on primary school children ridiculous fortunately I don't believe it happens in the UK

Hetty58 Wed 01-Dec-21 07:50:09

ayse, my friend, a nurse, has a permanent 'mask rash' - but never complains about it. It's just so trivial compared to her nightmares - as she's seen so many deaths every day at work. She has to wear a surgical mask, so no option of a chlorine-free fabric one. The chlorine and damp cause the problem for her.

People are so good at adapting to change, though, including children, so all efforts to slow down the infection rate are worthwhile, surely? There's not much sense in wearing masks in shops etc. but not in classrooms.

Josianne Wed 01-Dec-21 07:38:43

growstuff

Of course they're not losing their childhood from mask-wearing. They're having adult anxiety foisted on them.

Many aspects of their childhood, in terms of their ability to develop, socialise and thrive emotionally could well be being lost. And we just wont know for many years to come.

ayse Wed 01-Dec-21 07:32:20

nanna8

The school children here have been wearing masks until recently. The really young ones were exempt though. I hope this variant doesn’t see a return to young children having to wear them, it is hard to wear one all day indoors. My granddaughter and grandson both developed rashes round their mouths.

This is one of my daughter’s reasons for being anti-face masks. I also came across two nurses reporting the same problem. It’s very difficult for small people to have to wear masks continually and many people suffer from rashes. They can also become infected.

As seems clear most children only have a mild illness or are a symptomatic. Older relatives like me need to be careful around their younger relatives. All the adults collecting children from my grandchildren’s school wear their masks as per the schools instructions.

I’ve continued to wear a mask on public transport and whilst shopping so the new regulations don’t bother me at all. I’m glad to see that most people yesterday were masked up on the buses.

I listened in to a conversation about vaccines on the bus. One lady was talking to her daughter and had decided to go to a drop in centre as appointments were not needed for 2nd jabs or boosters.

growstuff Wed 01-Dec-21 07:30:23

Of course they're not losing their childhood from mask-wearing. They're having adult anxiety foisted on them.

Josianne Wed 01-Dec-21 07:22:31

The school children here have been wearing masks until recently. The really young ones were exempt though. and I think that is how it should be nanna8, that children under 8 or 9 years should be exempt. As Elspeth45 implies, they are otherwise losing their childhood. My 9 year old has just had covid and 10 days off school, but she wasn't in the slightest bit ill. Her younger brother, 6 years, who has an autoimmune blood clotting disorder, didn't catch it from her and carried on attending school. So in the more serious case, wearing a mask would have made no difference at all.

Marydoll Wed 01-Dec-21 07:16:03

growstuff, I did not say, I did not approve of mask wearing, quite the opposite. I was commenting on nanna8's post, offering another example. Some of the teenage girls have developed very sore faces.
Of course, we need to take all precautions possible, I am an advocate of mask wearing!

chelseababy Wed 01-Dec-21 06:09:57

Just heard its reached Australia too ( bbc world service)

Elspeth45 Wed 01-Dec-21 05:15:13

Its really sad seeing 5yr olds wearing masks, as my granddaughter does. What will they remember of their short childhood.

growstuff Wed 01-Dec-21 01:03:20

Marydoll

nanna8

The school children here have been wearing masks until recently. The really young ones were exempt though. I hope this variant doesn’t see a return to young children having to wear them, it is hard to wear one all day indoors. My granddaughter and grandson both developed rashes round their mouths.

My neighbour, a secondary school teacher has said that the adolescent girls he teaches are developing skin problems, having to wear masks all day.

Better that than being ill with Covid.

Marydoll Tue 30-Nov-21 23:17:33

nanna8

The school children here have been wearing masks until recently. The really young ones were exempt though. I hope this variant doesn’t see a return to young children having to wear them, it is hard to wear one all day indoors. My granddaughter and grandson both developed rashes round their mouths.

My neighbour, a secondary school teacher has said that the adolescent girls he teaches are developing skin problems, having to wear masks all day.

maddyone Tue 30-Nov-21 22:52:10

I noticed about 85% to 95% compliance in wearing masks yesterday in Sainsbury’s, definitely more mask wearing yesterday compared to earlier visits to Sainsbury’s. Today in M+S I would say 100% compliance.

nanna8 Tue 30-Nov-21 22:17:35

The school children here have been wearing masks until recently. The really young ones were exempt though. I hope this variant doesn’t see a return to young children having to wear them, it is hard to wear one all day indoors. My granddaughter and grandson both developed rashes round their mouths.

Marydoll Mon 29-Nov-21 17:59:10

growstuff

Floradora9

Interesting fact is that Scottish cases do not vary much from the English ones though we have been wearing masks in shops restaurants etc. all the time . I have done one bus journey where most people ignored the rule .

If people even in Scotland are ignoring the rule, that's probably why the rate of Scottish and English cases are similar.

In any case, the driver of English cases (and probably Scottish cases) is in schools, towards which the government is continuing to turn a blind eye. There's even evidence that the intention is to infect as many children as possible.

My experience in Scotland is different from Floradora. Most people I see are mask wearers. In my experience, it tends to be young people in their twenties, who appear to be ignoring the rule.

MayBee70 Mon 29-Nov-21 17:47:53

And still some people on the Conservative back benches aren’t wearing masks in parliament….

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 29-Nov-21 09:32:59

Just heard there are six cases in Scotland.

Lincslass Mon 29-Nov-21 07:38:51

Ha ha. I’ve just re read it and see how that was. Can’t understand Dr who either, anymore than I can understand how many of those were let on a flight if not tested, ?.

nanna8 Mon 29-Nov-21 07:34:58

The share market certainly seems to think it is a serious threat to us all. Just hope we can celebrate Christmas with family and friends and no Melbourne lockdowns. I can almost hear our precious premier slavering in anticipation .

Ro60 Mon 29-Nov-21 00:10:40

Re: Covid tests: A friend's husband LF tested positive, she tested negative.
They both went for PCT tests & both test positive.
Then the symptoms come she didn't lose her sense of taste or smell - he did - & others associated.
They isolated for the 10 days.
All I'm saying is, yes, there are other bugs going around but don't take the possibility that it's Covid lightly.
So glad I've got reasonable, sensible friends.