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PM Press Conference. Anyone else feeling despair?

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annie61 Tue 30-Nov-21 18:01:53

Just that, really. Government going all out to get every adult 'boosted' ASAP. Fair enough - but it does feel to me like this will go on and on for years.

Masks everywhere, more variants to probe and study, more boosters, more and more restrictions. Maybe I'm just a little low, but I honestly felt utter depair after that conference this evening.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 30-Nov-21 20:28:08

MayBee70

Whitewavemark2

Tbh I think that there is an assumption atm that the current vaccine whilst providing some protection may not provide sufficient protection.

But the jury is out.

The world needs to be vaccinated.

I hope that it’s a wake up call to the world that it needs to take care of everybody, even if the reason is a selfish one. But I’m not holding my breath.

Nor me, it will go the same way as the climate - self interest - no thought for anything or anyone else.

MayBee70 Tue 30-Nov-21 20:24:35

Whitewavemark2

Tbh I think that there is an assumption atm that the current vaccine whilst providing some protection may not provide sufficient protection.

But the jury is out.

The world needs to be vaccinated.

I hope that it’s a wake up call to the world that it needs to take care of everybody, even if the reason is a selfish one. But I’m not holding my breath.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 30-Nov-21 20:23:45

JaneJudge

Me and my husband had our boosters on Sunday and we have been so bloody ill. I have lymph glands like testicles from Peppa pig world

Blimey that sounds awful. Why do people have such different reactions I wonder? I felt terrible after the flu jab though.

Kali2 Tue 30-Nov-21 20:23:33

oh no, poor you- hope it settles down soon. hugs

We all felt we were coming to the end of this, and so many were planning to get together at last and have family time- and now it is all tumbling down. First world problem - yes- but so below the belt, truly.

Alegrias1 Tue 30-Nov-21 20:22:50

Oh JaneJudge, sometimes I have no idea what you're talking about but you do make me laugh!!

Millie22 Tue 30-Nov-21 20:22:46

Tonight even I feel a bit covid weary. It seems like we take a few steps towards 'normality' of some sort and then we are back with a new worry.

JaneJudge Tue 30-Nov-21 20:22:18

god loads of posts appeared whilst it took me ages to go to the fridge and the toilet and to look at the washing machine and comment how the dishwasher never beeped before but does now we have had it fixed properly

Whitewavemark2 Tue 30-Nov-21 20:22:10

Tbh I think that there is an assumption atm that the current vaccine whilst providing some protection may not provide sufficient protection.

But the jury is out.

The world needs to be vaccinated.

JaneJudge Tue 30-Nov-21 20:21:10

Me and my husband had our boosters on Sunday and we have been so bloody ill. I have lymph glands like testicles from Peppa pig world

Kali2 Tue 30-Nov-21 20:20:42

... and this exacerbated by being far away.

Yes, it was our choice (well partly) but we could never expect this. The Covid/Brexit combo is really causing havoc in so so many ways, but with families too.

Alegrias1 Tue 30-Nov-21 20:18:41

I'm not very good at the reassurance thing, I'm a girl for facts.

But what we do know is that the virus won't be resistant to the current vaccines. We might see a bit of loss of effectiveness, but what we have is super-good for the alpha and delta variants and so we are starting in a good place. And the more people who get vaccinated, the better.

I try not to compare this with previous pandemics, or try to compare it with how other viruses have mutated, because I don't think that is helpful for me to think that way. But just look how far we've come in the last year. A year ago nobody had had a vaccination, and look at us now.

I had it in my head that things would get worse over the winter and they seem to be doing that, to an extent. But I'm sitting here and its bucketing with rain outside and pitch dark; soon it will be spring and things will be getting better. As someone said above, this too shall pass.

Josianne Tue 30-Nov-21 20:16:20

Uncertainty at the moment though. And that is what makes people despair. It's like living on a volcano not knowing when it might erupt.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 30-Nov-21 20:10:40

maybe I spent the afternoon with my daughter and she said much the same, explaining how some viruses become less virulent as they mutate. We don’t know yet how virulent this one is, nor how ill it will make some people ( my words not DD who used scientific language) but it won’t take many weeks for information to begin to build up.

Vaccine may take as little as 4 months to produce, but more likely longer. So I suppose we are looking at next summer if it proves to be resistant to the current vaccine, and I think they seem to think it will be.

Uncertainty at the moment though.

Kali2 Tue 30-Nov-21 20:10:12

Josianne

That's an unfair growstuff if it was meant for me. Is one not allowed to have a down moment without having to think outside one's own box just for one day? No one mentioned not being grateful.

Of course we all know some people are having a much much tougher time, true depair time than us- and so does my grand-daughter. But turning this into a 'competion', as other comments have indicated- is really not helpful.

Teenagers are allowed to feel sad that normal life is passing them by at the moment, and knowing others are truly suffering is making the guilt and despair worse still. No wonder so many are suffering from mental issues at the moment.

MayBee70 Tue 30-Nov-21 20:01:13

Dr Johns latest blog was quite upbeat today. I’ve always assumed, even though I’m a terrible pessimist/worrier, that the virus would weaken, albeit being more transmissible, and he seems to think it might be doing just that. Given that some of his recent blogs have upset me quite a bit I was relieved to have an upbeat one. Maybe I’m lucky ( if that word can be applied during a pandemic) in that my grandchildren are just school age so not missing out on university, gap years etc etc. I remember the feeling of absolute dread last year when I first heard that the virus was affecting younger and younger people and I realised it wasn’t just me at risk but my children and grandchildren. And then how upsetting it was to realise that the vaccine wasn’t totally effective against infection and transmission. I’ve been cast into total despair some days, more for worrying about my family than myself. But I am, tonight, allowing myself a glimmer of hope.

Trisha57 Tue 30-Nov-21 19:57:22

Did I mean "despair" rather than "despairing"? Before the grammar police pick me up on it! smile

Whitewavemark2 Tue 30-Nov-21 19:56:11

After watching the news conferences, I came out of watching them feeling that the government seems slightly panicked.

Not that it makes any difference really. It is what it is.

We shall takes our own mitigation measures regardless of what Johnson and his crew do. - wonder if they will wear a mask now?

I have ordered the highest specification masks for times that we find ourselves in a crowded situation. We do avoid them but just to be safe.

My DD has tests stored for when we get together at Christmas. If anyone is positive, then the Turkey will be cooked and delivered to the doorstep? Otherwise we hope to enjoy a pleasant Christmas together.

And yes I am beginning to feel covid weary, and miss the theatre, nice restaurants etc. I am only human.

But equally to top up this bog awful year, I cry for those suffering hardship, war, famine, death. It is all so bloody and I can’t ever remember a time in my life when I have felt that everything is so wrong.

Trisha57 Tue 30-Nov-21 19:54:54

"than" not "that"

Trisha57 Tue 30-Nov-21 19:54:26

growstuff I am sure nobody for one minute is downplaying the tragedies that are going on worldwide. But it is not helpful playing the "somebody is worse off than you" card every time people have a down moment. Taking on the whole world's problems would be overwhelming for most people on top of the personal troubles that we are trying to cope with. Perhaps you are more resilient that everyone else?

annie61 I have also felt despairing at times, but I have now come to the conclusion that this too will pass. The comparison to Spanish Flu is relevant - that was a terrible event and it must have seemed at the time that life would never be the same ever again, but science has moved on so much that we are in a better position to deal with the challenges that face us at the moment. Tomorrow will be better - I really believe that. In the meantime all that we can do is take sensible precautions that are applicable to us as individuals and try to look after others at the same time.

Sending you best wishes and a little bit of courage! x x x

Aveline Tue 30-Nov-21 19:51:54

I suppose I'm just used to it. Automatically wear a mask in crowded places or where I feel uncomfortable and thinking twice about social events.

varian Tue 30-Nov-21 19:49:43

It costs us next to nothing to wear a face covering. Surely that's the least we can do?

Deedaa Tue 30-Nov-21 19:47:32

It is depressing to think it's all beginning again, but at least this time we are vaccinated and learning more about how the virus works.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 30-Nov-21 19:46:44

growstuff it is perfectly possible to feel sad on behalf of one’s family circumstances due to Covid as well as acknowledging the dreadful unnecessary deaths which occurred in the channel last week.

Alegrias1 Tue 30-Nov-21 19:44:11

I don't think telling people who are feeling down that other people have it worse does any good at all.

Casdon Tue 30-Nov-21 19:40:12

growstuff given how many families have lost loved ones to Covid your comment was ill judged on this thread. Just bear in mind they won’t be enjoying themselves either.