Christmas party at Downing Street last year

No information about who says she was at the party then.

Its a funny old world, isn't it?

Germanshepherdsmum

She's Jewish. I don't want to be accused of not being able to stand her because of that. I just can't stand her full stop.

Kuennsberg is not a follower of the Jewish faith, so that comment is somewhat baffling.

She's Jewish. I don't want to be accused of not being able to stand her because of that. I just can't stand her full stop.

What has Laura Kuenssberg's religion got to do with anything.?

Does she actually worship Boris Johnson?

Germanshepherdsmum

I very much doubt it. People are coming and going at these places 24/7. The only person whose attendance has been mentioned is Laura Kuenssberg (sp?) and I’d be delighted to see her in hot water (nothing to do with her religion before anyone accuses me on that score).

Who mentioned Laura Kuenssberg being there? She certainly is saying that on the BBC news channels or on the website, she talks about sources and what she's been told. If someone is saying she was there presumably they were there as well?

Germanshepherdsmum

The HR people in my firms were part of the admin staff, which also encompassed managerial, accounting, clerical and secretarial staff.

I was a senior HR manager and I wasn't admin staff.

Just a little reminder. On 17th December last year, Priti Patel was on the front page of The Telegraph encouraging people to "grass up" their neighbours if they were contracting covid19 restrictions and having family or friends in their home.

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Indeed GSM

We shall agree to differ about PR employees then and hopefully not fall out over it.?

Germanshepherdsmum

Well you weren’t in a law firm I guess. Different sectors categorise their staff in different ways. Offence was neither meant nor taken. The professionally qualified HR director and her team were part of admin (and of course essential). As were the accounting staff, who are not usually chartered accountants in law firms but book keepers specifically trained in the Solicitors’ Accounts Rules, which you break at your professional peril.

Yes, sorry, I know we've moved on but this'll be my last say on the matter.

If the people in your organisation were happy to be called admin, fair enough. But Number 10 isn't a law firm and PR people are never "admin".

I'll leave it there.

Germanshepherdsmum

I will ask again - who was there? Possibly not the people who made the covid regs? Might have been those admin staff Alegrias, who are not members of the government.

I think knowing how many were there is a better starting point than who was there.
After all, the higher the number, the greater the risk to public health.

Don't people have to be signed in and out of the building? You would imagine they do. (And if not, why not?)

Assuming they do, those numbers could be compared with those at those times on a 'normal' day.

If there is a significant difference between the two, it needs looking into.
At that point who becomes more important, because those who were there need to explain what they were doing.

I very much doubt it. People are coming and going at these places 24/7. The only person whose attendance has been mentioned is Laura Kuenssberg (sp?) and I’d be delighted to see her in hot water (nothing to do with her religion before anyone accuses me on that score).

Anyway. A point to consider; all people entering Downing Street or the Parliamentary estate for that matter, are known to be there, so surely a quick look at the leaving times of those 'working late' would furnish us with a guest list?

Well you weren’t in a law firm I guess. Different sectors categorise their staff in different ways. Offence was neither meant nor taken. The professionally qualified HR director and her team were part of admin (and of course essential). As were the accounting staff, who are not usually chartered accountants in law firms but book keepers specifically trained in the Solicitors’ Accounts Rules, which you break at your professional peril.

Sorry, I'm really speechless. That you think a professional person like an accountant, an HR manager or a PR practitioner could be described as "admin staff".

I'm not being contrary, I'm really flummoxed.

I was a Project Manager. Was I "admin staff"?

We had partners, legally qualified employees and admin staff. No-one was unhappy with those categories.

Well that's nice.

Not where I worked. Anywhere. For the last 40 years.

The HR people in my firms were part of the admin staff, which also encompassed managerial, accounting, clerical and secretarial staff.

With all due respect to professional admin people, you don't call HR or PR people admin staff. Although I suppose its better than calling them the hired help.

How long have you been retired? The HR team where I worked would have been having a word with you about that kind of attitude.

Germanshepherdsmum

I will ask again - who was there? Possibly not the people who made the covid regs? Might have been those admin staff Alegrias, who are not members of the government.

possibly the same 'admin staff' who have been snorting cocaine?

It depends if they are employed, in which case they are admin staff just as HR staff or accounting staff are, or external consultants.

Germanshepherdsmum

I will ask again - who was there? Possibly not the people who made the covid regs? Might have been those admin staff Alegrias, who are not members of the government.

PR people are not admin staff. You said they were.

Not that there is anything wrong with being admin staff.

But PR people are not admin staff.

No Maizie, I can’t claim to be a lawyer now that I have retired. Criminal offence. Can only say I’m a retired one. I suggested a few ‘more important’ matters. Do you need an exhaustive list? Did I claim that my suggestions constituted an exhaustive list, set out in order of priority?