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Is now the right time to lift Covid restrictions?

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Bossyrossy Wed 19-Jan-22 13:52:15

I can’t help thinking that BJ and his Tory cronies are lifting Covid restrictions to deflect the flack away from party-gate with no consideration for the health of the nation. It might give a boost to the economy but this will be short lived if the long term effect is an increase in hospitalisation and deaths from Covid. A gradual lifting of restrictions while keeping an eye on rates of infection would be far more sensible but wouldn’t be such a distraction from the lies and rule breaking that has been going on in No. 10. It’s a case of trying to bury bad news; bad news for Boris.

Oopsadaisy1 Wed 19-Jan-22 18:56:18

No.
I’m with the OP he’s trying to bury the (very) negative news.

But we aren’t fooled are we?

maddyone Wed 19-Jan-22 19:06:16

Is now the right time to lift Covid restrictions?

No!

Kali2 Wed 19-Jan-22 19:14:33

Thanks kitty- not very good with the abbreviations on GN, so could not guess the 'dad' as 'dgd'. Wow.

No, it is NOT the right time- should wait till beginning of Spring- around Mid March if figures go down significantly.

Daisymae Wed 19-Jan-22 19:27:03

Although numbers are declining, they are still at a very high rate. I personally think that the timing is to appease the MPs who are against restrictions full stop. It's part of the look how brilliant we have been message. This is not the time to through caution to the wind

Callistemon21 Wed 19-Jan-22 19:48:43

kittylester

11 children in the same class as one of my dgd have tested positive this week kali.

And 6 in the same class as another!!

Think this should be OK kali.

I no wot u ment kittylester
???

varian Wed 19-Jan-22 20:02:51

Infection rates are dropping but still very high.

This announcement is about telling the readers of the right wing tabloids that they can do what they like because good old Boris has defeated covid.

I just wonder whether they are still as guillible as they once were,.

Callistemon21 Wed 19-Jan-22 20:08:29

Well, a hospital consultant specialising in lung disease thought today that Covid is on the wane.

I doubt very much that she would be a Johnson or even Tory supporter.

varian Wed 19-Jan-22 20:39:17

It is on the wane but it has not disappeared. Far from it.

Pammie1 Wed 19-Jan-22 20:53:44

No. We’re being manipulated. Tinkering with the reporting system as they have in the last few weeks - no need to take a PCR after a positive LFT etc - is bound to reduce the figures. Now, seemingly we won’t have to isolate at all if we test positive. This is all designed to make us look the other way in light of partygate and as myself and two other members of my household are CEV and not producing enough antibodies after vaccination I’m not falling for it. Will continue to socially distance, wear a mask and only go out if necessary. If we’re not obliged to report or self isolate if we test positive, then no one gets over my doorstep until I see how this pans out.

halfpint1 Wed 19-Jan-22 21:00:26

It seems a little foolish to me considering France recorded
nearly half a million new cases yesterday

Zoejory Wed 19-Jan-22 21:04:11

How are we being manipulated? Not sure I understand.

Just 3 weeks ago many were saying England/Boris were mad to allow Christmas and New Year celebrations to go ahead.

Many Scots came here and folk were worried that the English would give them covid etc etc

It now would seem that England called this one right.

I am pleased that restrictions are being lifted. It's about time. We can always revert if needs be.

We do seem to be doing better than many European countries and I've no idea why.

Sweetpeasue Wed 19-Jan-22 21:06:09

Yes, I noticed that halflint1.
I know there's cause for optimism but think it's too early.
Anyone know if France records the covid statistics in the same way as ourselves?

rosie1959 Wed 19-Jan-22 21:07:26

halfpint1

It seems a little foolish to me considering France recorded
nearly half a million new cases yesterday

France have had much tighter restrictions than us for quite a while so that can't be the answer to getting numbers down

Whitewavemark2 Wed 19-Jan-22 21:21:16

Tbh I think we can all make our own minds up. It has never been terribly sensible to listen to Johnson as he has never had the country’s best interest at heart.

So now that there will be many who are willing to risk the health of their fellow citizens it is probably best to be more vigilant for the time and perhaps until the summer or we can see what is happening with regard to any new variant,

MayBee70 Wed 19-Jan-22 21:33:53

Zoejory

How are we being manipulated? Not sure I understand.

Just 3 weeks ago many were saying England/Boris were mad to allow Christmas and New Year celebrations to go ahead.

Many Scots came here and folk were worried that the English would give them covid etc etc

It now would seem that England called this one right.

I am pleased that restrictions are being lifted. It's about time. We can always revert if needs be.

We do seem to be doing better than many European countries and I've no idea why.

He called it right purely by accident. He had to do what his back benchers told him and he struck lucky in that Omicron has proved to be quite mild.

Coastpath Wed 19-Jan-22 21:50:40

Boris Johnson's Twitter posts this evening are singing the praises of the Conservative's handling of Covid.

He says "Confronted by the nation’s biggest challenge since the Second World War and the worst pandemic since 1918, any government would get some things wrong.

But this government got the big things right. "

Is this him telling us not to worry about the parties because they've done a good job? How does he have the nerve?

Teacheranne Thu 20-Jan-22 01:49:12

LilacChaser

growstuff some people just don't have it

What? Are you including the scientists, that people here quote ad infinitum, and who have backed the government on their lifting of restrictions?

I have not heard any views from the scientists or medical professionals who used to be present at the Covid briefings such as Chris Whitty or JVT. Nothing on the BBC News at 10 or in the early editions of on line newspapers.

Could you share what you have heard of them backing the gvt please.

MayBee70 Thu 20-Jan-22 05:10:27

Teacheranne

LilacChaser

growstuff some people just don't have it

What? Are you including the scientists, that people here quote ad infinitum, and who have backed the government on their lifting of restrictions?

I have not heard any views from the scientists or medical professionals who used to be present at the Covid briefings such as Chris Whitty or JVT. Nothing on the BBC News at 10 or in the early editions of on line newspapers.

Could you share what you have heard of them backing the gvt please.

That’s a really good point….

growstuff Thu 20-Jan-22 06:45:18

LilacChaser

growstuff some people just don't have it

What? Are you including the scientists, that people here quote ad infinitum, and who have backed the government on their lifting of restrictions?

I would sincerely hope that scientists rely on more than "common sense".

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 20-Jan-22 07:40:49

I would have expected to see Chris Whitty or JVT wheeled out yesterday to back the lifting of restrictions. Conspicuous by their absence.

JaneJudge Thu 20-Jan-22 07:44:28

I thought JVT had left the building?

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 20-Jan-22 07:56:56

Not just yet I think.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 20-Jan-22 08:15:19

100000 cases a day. All seems a bit premature.

But of course we all know that this decision is neither balanced nor proportionate.

The toddler is playing to the gallery and trying to divert the attention of his minders.

Nandalot Thu 20-Jan-22 08:17:00

It appears Romy was the one who had Covid when Johnson was isolating because a family member had Covid and she had it quite badly.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 20-Jan-22 08:22:05

I wonder how such a tiny baby got it?