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All restrictions to end?

(259 Posts)
Daisymae Thu 10-Feb-22 10:05:46

Well, so that's then. Luckily there's not tens of thousands of daily infections and several hundred people a day dying. Oh, wait a minute.. ....

Urmstongran Thu 10-Feb-22 13:26:23

Where’s Alegrias when we need her?

Mollygo Thu 10-Feb-22 12:38:47

I think we’d still be concerned in March, but I agree it’s too early now. But then so many aren’t testing or wearing masks or probably not isolating already.

MayBeMaw Thu 10-Feb-22 12:31:48

Do I detect a “dead cat” ? And no, nothing to do with that footballer.

rosie1959 Thu 10-Feb-22 12:13:53

Surely hospital admissions and deaths are the most important figures the amount of cases now although important is not so relevant.
I also have a friend who is a paramedic she hasn’t been on call to a Covid case for several months
We may get new variants but the rules will have to be changed if we do, not kept just in case of something that may or may
not happen.

MayBee70 Thu 10-Feb-22 12:02:19

Johnson just wants to boast that we’re the first country to lift all restrictions. As with the lockdowns ( hey everybody, we’re going to lock down next week so I’m just giving you the chance to go out and party for a few days to infect everybody) he likes announcing everything in advance if it makes him look good. Remember the ‘it’ll be gone in 12 weeks/by Easter/ by Christmas statements’. He’s probably thought up a catchy soundbite to use already.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 10-Feb-22 11:57:20

If only we could hear from Chris Whitty about this. His silence speaks volumes.

winterwhite Thu 10-Feb-22 11:54:26

Rosie puts it well. It's the sudden rush that is so alarming (remember 'tis the season to be jolly cautious'?). 1st March would have been more reasonable: schools and hospitals need time to adjust and the public needs to see some data and evidence (remember 'I will level with you'?). As someone else has just said, he PM owes the public that much.

Another off-the-cuff wheeze that may misfire. BJ is beginning to seem like Macbeth rushing about, and that isn't a look to inspire anybody.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 10-Feb-22 11:52:41

Sparklefizz

^...and his hair looked particularly stupid.^

I don't care about his hair, but I do care about the restrictions ending, and it's much too soon. The only reason the numbers are going down at the moment is because people with Covid don't have to do a PCR after a positive LFT, and don't even have to report a positive LFT apparently.

I feel we are being thrown to the dogs, just as I was trying to feel less anxious about going out and about.

Absolutely right Sparklefizz. We have no idea what the case numbers are now and can only rely on hospital admissions and deaths. Reckless in the extreme and all to save his political skin. As far as I know Delta hasn’t gone away and Omicron will morph into another variant at some point - or a new variant will be brought in from overseas.

Callistemon21 Thu 10-Feb-22 11:47:52

Cases were shooting up in an area near here recently but started going down according to yesterday's numbers.

LtEve Thu 10-Feb-22 11:46:20

I'm a paramedic and am seeing infections and serious illness reduce massively, the vast majority of my colleagues have had Covid despite wearing proper PPE so are now not so worried.

I really don't think we are going to control the rates of infections by any other methods now apart from natural immunity and vaccines. I spoke to a London based A&E consultant at a training session last week and this was his private opinion.
I do think people who have symptoms should be able to take time off work with pay and no effect on their sickness record which is not the case in a lot of companies.

mamaa Thu 10-Feb-22 11:41:53

You never know- he might do one of his favourite things a 'u-turn', and I'm banking on the fact that when he says he or the govt are planning to do something, or something is going to change, often the opposite happens as he was just 'testing the waters'.
This is my only positive way of thinking about his latest outburst- probably though to the detriment of all of us- it'll be the first and last time he sticks to his guns!

Daisymae Thu 10-Feb-22 11:28:42

I would be happy for restrictions to end if we had control over infections and our best scientists said that was the way to go. I spoke to a senior paramedic on Monday and they said the were being ultra cautious in their private life as they has seen the effect of this virus first hand.

MissAdventure Thu 10-Feb-22 11:18:40

I would be happy for them to end after a proper address from the prime minister, with facts and figures which are backed up by the people that used to stand alongside him and explain them (where are they now?)
He owes the public that much.

Casdon Thu 10-Feb-22 11:06:21

Scotland won’t follow until convinced it is appropriate Granny23, neither will Wales. Both countries are still following the scientific and medical advice.

LtEve Thu 10-Feb-22 11:06:20

At what point would people be happy for restrictions to end?

Realistically speaking Covid is never going away so do we keep restrictions for ever or is there a point when people will feel relaxed enough to not need restrictions?

Granny23 Thu 10-Feb-22 11:00:56

* Sarnia* said If Boris abolishes the rules then he can't get caught for breaking them.

And therein lies the truth of the matter. My only hope is that Scotland does not follow this folly. My family have strictly followed the rules and are all good so far. We will continue to be careful no matter what Boris says.

MissAdventure Thu 10-Feb-22 10:47:06

Hmmmm...
Not convinced, personally, but as I said, I know nothing about the figures and statistics .

rosie1959 Thu 10-Feb-22 10:41:06

MissAdventure

I saw last night Johnson saying that.
Apparently no forethought, no warning, just thrown out there...
Who knows?

It was actually planned for the 23rd March and was suggested this may come forward if circumstances allow
It was always going to happen there is no other contagious illness that you have to isolate for by law
Like with masks it’s bringing it back to personal responsibility if you are sick or have symptoms you stay away from other people the only thing that has changed is you can’t get fined for not doing so
Isolation relies on people testing in the first place how many people are already going about their day without knowing they are carrying Covid because unless you test very regularly you can well have it without even realising
We may be the first country to do this but we won’t be the last tracking and tracing of infected people cannot carry on indefinitely

MissAdventure Thu 10-Feb-22 10:40:03

I'm beginning to doubt what is true and what isn't.
Are the figures encouraging?
Is the virus still likely to produce other variants, and if so, will they be weaker still?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 10-Feb-22 10:37:46

Callistemon21

Has he consulted the scientists or just thrown this out there as a distraction?

No apparently not.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 10-Feb-22 10:37:20

This is all about saving King Johnson by throwing a piece of meat to the right wing loons in his party, and zero to do with what is best for the vulnerable, sick and elderly.

Callistemon21 Thu 10-Feb-22 10:36:26

Has he consulted the scientists or just thrown this out there as a distraction?

MissAdventure Thu 10-Feb-22 10:34:01

We all care about the restrictions.

youtu.be/7hEs6sXCyC8

Sparklefizz Thu 10-Feb-22 10:28:12

...and his hair looked particularly stupid.

I don't care about his hair, but I do care about the restrictions ending, and it's much too soon. The only reason the numbers are going down at the moment is because people with Covid don't have to do a PCR after a positive LFT, and don't even have to report a positive LFT apparently.

I feel we are being thrown to the dogs, just as I was trying to feel less anxious about going out and about.

Kalu Thu 10-Feb-22 10:27:26

Because it suits him! No surprise there.