All restrictions to end?

Apology accepted but I did feel that the poster mentioned left directly after my post on that thread.

Callistemon21

MayBee70

MayBeMaw

This is NOT what this thread is about.
Can we not accept that an intelligent adult has made the decision to not spend her time on this site without agonising, or bewailing her absence or looking for any hidden significance.
Friends come, friends go, people move on.
That is not meant to sound harsh, but we also need to respect her decision.

But I very much doubt that she wanted to leave. She just couldn’t at that moment in time, cope with the things that people were saying. And, if that can happen to someone who appeared to be pretty strong minded, maybe we should all look at ourselves and the things we say to people on this and other forums. I know we can just switch off our computers and iPads when it gets too much for us but sometimes the only way to escape from it totally is to leave the forum and not be able to comment or be commented to/about.

I'd be grateful if you stop these insinuations, Maybee

As you very well know, Alegrias said she was leaving in the middle of a thread criticising the SNP about chopping the bottoms off classroom doors - it was a funny thread about the SNP despite what you and others try to claim. She left after I remarked on the hilarity of the thread remarking thatGransnet used to be funnier years ago and Alegrias said if that was what Gransnet was like, she was leaving.

As you well know, Alegrias was no shrinking violet and did not hesitate to say if posters exasperated her; she also gave credit where she agreed with someone.
She was very informative too.

If everyone who had their chosen politician, political party criticised then left Gransnet there wouldn't be many posters left.

Others have been bullied off by nasty personal remarks but this was not the case.

Report me if you wish.
I'm fed up with the insinuations.

I’ve not blamed you as far as I know. And that particular comment certainly wasn’t aimed at you. I apologise if you felt that it was. And it was also meant as a comment about forums in general.

GrannyGravy13

Switzerland is the latest Country to remove most of its restrictions.

And the response is very mixed, with many thnking it is too fast, too soon, and that we should wait till the end of March and the better weather. Me included.

The anti-vaxxers are all celebrating and gloating- some very unpleasantly. One local Café owners invited everyone for a celebratory drink today, then went on to say all vaccinated could have it outside on the terrasse in the cold pouring rain.

She'll be back, you'll see. In fact, I did wonder if Aleg was a reincarnation of a previous poster from a year or two back. I don't remember the name but there was the same blend of insistent and sometimes harsh pedantry and in your face assertiveness.
Oops, am I breaking a rule or is it ok that I can't remember the name of this previous guise, just the flavour! I'm sure someone will be eager to report me if so, never mind. I'll go away and think about the Royals (not).

MayBee70

MayBeMaw

This is NOT what this thread is about.
Can we not accept that an intelligent adult has made the decision to not spend her time on this site without agonising, or bewailing her absence or looking for any hidden significance.
Friends come, friends go, people move on.
That is not meant to sound harsh, but we also need to respect her decision.

But I very much doubt that she wanted to leave. She just couldn’t at that moment in time, cope with the things that people were saying. And, if that can happen to someone who appeared to be pretty strong minded, maybe we should all look at ourselves and the things we say to people on this and other forums. I know we can just switch off our computers and iPads when it gets too much for us but sometimes the only way to escape from it totally is to leave the forum and not be able to comment or be commented to/about.

I'd be grateful if you stop these insinuations, Maybee

As you very well know, Alegrias said she was leaving in the middle of a thread criticising the SNP about chopping the bottoms off classroom doors - it was a funny thread about the SNP despite what you and others try to claim. She left after I remarked on the hilarity of the thread remarking thatGransnet used to be funnier years ago and Alegrias said if that was what Gransnet was like, she was leaving.

As you well know, Alegrias was no shrinking violet and did not hesitate to say if posters exasperated her; she also gave credit where she agreed with someone.
She was very informative too.

If everyone who had their chosen politician, political party criticised then left Gransnet there wouldn't be many posters left.

Others have been bullied off by nasty personal remarks but this was not the case.

Report me if you wish.
I'm fed up with the insinuations.

Fgs. Stop moaning and get on with your life.
It's not a competition to see who can complain the most or who might know someone who knows someone who once read an article that we're all doomed!

Switzerland is the latest Country to remove most of its restrictions.

I was very lucky in that I went to a convent school where there was actually no bullying (but then this was the 1960s!), we hung out in little cliques and I am still friends with the girls I was pally with.
However, I subsequently went to a college of further education where some girls did bully others. I remember being terrified but when picked on, swore violently at them (good job the Mother Superior wasn't there!) and avoided them thereafter. It worked but it wasn't a very nice place and I learnt to abscond when I wasn't required to attend classes without telling my mother! Probably I went up in the eyes of the bullies as a result, I did well in my studies anyway and was relieved to leave.
I suspect bullying now is much worse with smart phones and the need to be seen and available 24/7. Poor kids.

Jilly it is sad. But I remember in school just how many people seem to hang with a bully. They obviously felt safe if they were friends with them. I kept away ha ha. Like you did, I suspect.

Farzanah

The community spirit which was apparent when the pandemic started seems to have sadly disappeared. It seems very much as Stephen Reicher has said.
Thanks for giving the link Varian. If I want well informed information about Covid I usually try and catch the independent sage, which is broadcast on Twitter and YouTube every Friday at 1.30pm.

I think this is because of many things probably mostly because the effect of Covid has moved on so much from the initial infection. I can only speak for myself and in general but I admit I was absolutely terrified of catching it back in 2020 today things are much different with being vaccinated and the invention of the anti viral drugs I no longer have this fear.
Some although not popular thinking are totally fed up with the whole thing and no longer want restrictions of any sort.
We do still have those that are at greatest risk of harm from this virus but is this enough to regain that community spirit it should be, but most realistically it is not
Having a law that says you must isolate if infected will probably make no difference to those who have no intention of isolating in the first place as they just won’t test

love0c thanks, haven't had time to come back to GN. I think I get what you've said but how odd, leaning towards the familiar even if it's uncomfortable? I think I've read similar about people abused in childhood who stay in unhappy relationships because it's familiar. It's really sad.

The community spirit which was apparent when the pandemic started seems to have sadly disappeared. It seems very much as Stephen Reicher has said.
Thanks for giving the link Varian. If I want well informed information about Covid I usually try and catch the independent sage, which is broadcast on Twitter and YouTube every Friday at 1.30pm.

JillyJosie people who are a bit afraid of being picked on or singled out tend to stick with those that do exactly that!

Thanks for that link varian.

I came across this petition against removing the requirement to isolate after testing positive.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/606834?fbclid=IwAR1BFwpQpGkyFXlFr4cKueoFyqqFnddov7Sr_aTf9OLCGGVuy_z2m10VSY8

True MayBee but as MaybeMaw said that is not what this thread is about and perhaps it should have a separate thread from this one.
The original thread title is an important topic
I also found posts from Alegrias informative and interesting

MayBeMaw

This is NOT what this thread is about.
Can we not accept that an intelligent adult has made the decision to not spend her time on this site without agonising, or bewailing her absence or looking for any hidden significance.
Friends come, friends go, people move on.
That is not meant to sound harsh, but we also need to respect her decision.

But I very much doubt that she wanted to leave. She just couldn’t at that moment in time, cope with the things that people were saying. And, if that can happen to someone who appeared to be pretty strong minded, maybe we should all look at ourselves and the things we say to people on this and other forums. I know we can just switch off our computers and iPads when it gets too much for us but sometimes the only way to escape from it totally is to leave the forum and not be able to comment or be commented to/about.

We are getting "freedom for some to do what they like, irrespective of the consequence for others."

Prof Stephen Riecher, Independent Sage

twitter.com/IndependentSage/status/1492201354886008843?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Jaxjacky, I'm sure a lot of people will continue being cautious and sensible - whatever the 'official' advice - for quite some time.

We can't pretend it's all over. We've taken great care for a couple of years, so why throw caution to the wind now? If tests become expensive (or unavailable) though, people will stop testing - and official infection rates will be even less accurate, quite a worry.

I will make my own decisions to keep myself and hopefully others safe. I’ll still wear a mask indoors where I don’t know the people sharing the same space, I’ll keep my distance and I’ll still test, if I’m positive, I’ll stay in.
For how long I’ll do all of this I don’t know yet.

Interesting JillyJosie

Covid is known to cause blood clots and pericarditis so it's not surprising if this study showed those increased risks.

This is NOT what this thread is about.
Can we not accept that an intelligent adult has made the decision to not spend her time on this site without agonising, or bewailing her absence or looking for any hidden significance.
Friends come, friends go, people move on.
That is not meant to sound harsh, but we also need to respect her decision.

It wasn’t.

Callistemon21

^Even a strong minded person like her can only take so much^.

And it was nothing compared to what some posters have had to put up with, some of whom are very vulnerable and come on to GN for companionship.

Really, there is no comparison.

I’d advise people who come onto the forum for companionship not to get involved in political stuff then!

Thank you for bringing our attention to this JillyJ. It’s definitely not flu that’s for sure.

To return to the subject of the thread, as I posted earlier and someone has since mentioned, a large scale study reporting serious cardiovascular problems emerging in those who have had Covid has been posted in Nature.

www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00403-0?fbclid=IwAR2IwBKT3Uy1vVPIYoSu3U-OF-oXftyRPx6VOTUrwrTc6V2cvrvMzuO9Pok

Here's the first paragraph:
Even a mild case of COVID-19 can increase a person’s risk of cardiovascular problems for at least a year after diagnosis, a new study1 shows. Researchers found that rates of many conditions, such as heart failure and stroke, were substantially higher in people who had recovered from COVID-19 than in similar people who hadn’t had the disease.

What’s more, the risk was elevated even for those who were under 65 years of age and lacked risk factors, such as obesity or diabetes.

It's always denied that there is any kind of in-group on GN but it's always the same people posting and the same kinds of 'it wasn't me', 'you said' 'oh no, I didn't'!!

Having seen Alegrias being pretty condescending to some people along with smug comments about how clever she was, she was someone I took care to avoid. Why are some people jumped on (and I'm not going to mention names but I certainly could) whilst others who are quite obnoxious get supported? It's a mystery.