All restrictions to end?

It’s no good navel gazing on social media me thinks.

Even a strong minded person like her can only take so much.

And it was nothing compared to what some posters have had to put up with, some of whom are very vulnerable and come on to GN for companionship.

Really, there is no comparison.

And still no one seems to be looking at the remarks they made and questioning whether they did take things too far. Incorrect. I have looked back at my 1st comment on the thread at the end of page 3, and all I did was to talk about doors and safety from the perspective of a H & S Compliance Inspector for schools. The reply I got was "Has the person posting this post actually read anything about what's going on?" followed by a flounce and a "Have fun".
I said earlier, I am not going to comment on the reasons for a poster leaving, but I have a sense of fairness and see no provocation in my remarks.

Well, if everyone who took exception to their preferred political party/politicians being mocked on GN decided to leave because they were offended, there'd always be the knitting, TV and games thread to keep us happy. ?
And the relationship threads, of course, which are generally asking for advice which, generally speaking, none of us are qualified to do..

Lucca

MayBee70

In my opinion there was a ganging up mentality towards Alegrias on that thread and the more upset she got the more mocking people became. And I’m saying that as someone who has locked horns with Alegrias on many occasions. Even a strong minded person like her can only take so much. And still no one seems to be looking at the remarks they made and questioning whether they did take things too far.

I agree. There was one crowing about how much fun it was to see her getting riled.

I didn't see it.
That could have been after Alegrias had left so not a factor in her flounce.

GrannyGravy13

Callistemon21

It was because the SNP were being mocked, not Alegrias.

I speak as someone she has agreed with sometimes!

100% correct

100% wrong.

MayBee70

In my opinion there was a ganging up mentality towards Alegrias on that thread and the more upset she got the more mocking people became. And I’m saying that as someone who has locked horns with Alegrias on many occasions. Even a strong minded person like her can only take so much. And still no one seems to be looking at the remarks they made and questioning whether they did take things too far.

I agree. There was one crowing about how much fun it was to see her getting riled.

Very true GSM. There are bound to be heated debates when so many varied and opposite views are held by posters. I think we have to accept that without condoning personal attacks.
Personally I find the political threads most stimulating, and do get quite bored by domestic threads and irritated by obvious (to me) trolls, but I find that Gransnetters can be so supportive when help and advice needed.
GN is also quite addictive. I have left twice and rejoined. I hope Alegria will returns.

Some posters seem to make it their aim for the day to argue all that day! IMO. Oh and they love to call out others if they argue back!

I think for some posters it isn't just one thing that causes them to go but disenchantment over time. The next thing that comes along to irk them and they're gone.

In my experience Alegrias always gave at least as good as she got and was well able to look after herself. A lot of posters are harangued for their political views.

Callistemon21

It was because the SNP were being mocked, not Alegrias.

I speak as someone she has agreed with sometimes!

100% correct

It was because the SNP were being mocked, not Alegrias.

I speak as someone she has agreed with sometimes!

IMHO I don’t think the flounce was down to anger, more like embarrassment.

In my opinion there was a ganging up mentality towards Alegrias on that thread and the more upset she got the more mocking people became. And I’m saying that as someone who has locked horns with Alegrias on many occasions. Even a strong minded person like her can only take so much. And still no one seems to be looking at the remarks they made and questioning whether they did take things too far.

Callistemon21

^And if telling off a poster for 'insensitivity' on another thread for making a passing slightly derogatory reference to an MP's surname isn't preaching I'm the Queen of Sheba...^

oh, for fuck's sake!
It was puerile and detracted from the important message the OP was posting.

I'm not arguing with you any more but I will say that I find it ironic that you accuse other posters of unkindness and insensitivity.

I which case you should have ignored it, not made a big issue out of it. There wasn't much concentration on the 'important issue', was there?

I'm not arguing with you any more but I will say that I find it ironic that you accuse other posters of unkindness and insensitivity.

Well, we're quits then...

Callistemon21

^Alegrias pointed out several times that the 'proposal' you were all mocking wasn't actually true but you all persisted in posting your 'fun' posts as if it were. I call that insensitive. It was unpleasant^

But it was true!!!

It wasn't true. You all latched on to the 'sawing doors in half' absurdity and off you all went.

And if telling off a poster for 'insensitivity' on another thread for making a passing slightly derogatory reference to an MP's surname isn't preaching I'm the Queen of Sheba...

oh, for fuck's sake!
It was puerile and detracted from the important message the OP was posting.

I'm not arguing with you any more but I will say that I find it ironic that you accuse other posters of unkindness and insensitivity.

Hypocrisy is when those who have caused several posters to leave Gransnet because of their unkind personal remarks start criticising those who said a thread about the SNP's daft proposal was fun.

Are you pointing at me, Callistomen?

Because if I have been the cause of any poster leaving no-one has ever told me. And, from my experience of Gransnet I'm sure that there would have been a big rush of posters delighted to tell me about it.

Alegrias pointed out several times that the 'proposal' you were all mocking wasn't actually true but you all persisted in posting your 'fun' posts as if it were. I call that insensitive. It was unpleasant

But it was true!!!

MayBee70, all the Asian students on the Uni buses that pass here, wear masks. The rest of the passengers, student or not, -it’s hit or miss.
The local supermarket still asks everyone to wear masks and all the staff there, except those on the hot food/delicatessen counter wear masks. On those two counters, a lanyard stops the staff from spreading any potential germs.

^Sorry, MaizieD but you are altering the course of events.
No-one made personal remarks to Alegrias before she flounced.^

The whole proposal by the Scottish Government was so ludicrous that it was ripe for ridicule.
It was the proposal that was ridiculed, not any poster.

Alegrias pointed out several times that the 'proposal' you were all mocking wasn't actually true but you all persisted in posting your 'fun' posts as if it were. I call that insensitive. It was unpleasant.

And one poster even made a point of saying that they were laughing at all her posts trying to make this point. I'd call that ridiculing the poster.

And if telling off a poster for 'insensitivity' on another thread for making a passing slightly derogatory reference to an MP's surname isn't preaching I'm the Queen of Sheba...

I had hoped that people in this country would have learned from eastern countries where people suffering from a cold wear masks so as not to pass their germs onto other people. But, alas, we still seem to have a ‘I’m alright Jack’ attitude. Not only that but there still seem to be people making fun of those of us that still intend to wear masks (I’m referring to another forum that I’m on where there’s no empathy for people that are high risk).

Sorry to revert to this, but I think it's a bit hypocritical when posters who preach about 'insensitivity' on other threads defend their own insensitivity by saying that it was just a bit of fun.
Hypocrisy is when those who have caused several posters to leave Gransnet because of their unkind personal remarks start criticising those who said a thread about the SNP's daft proposal was fun.

I hope I have always been polite.

Elizabeth27

In the UK before covid, I never saw anyone wearing a mask.

What did the vulnerable do about all the other airborne viruses that would be dangerous for them to come into contact with?

Well, perhaps this covid episode might cause people to stop and think that mask wearing to mitigate the effects of other airborne viruses, as is commonplace in some other countries, might actually be a good idea to adopt.
For instance, flu might not have the same long term ill effects (paper just published of US research finds that people have a high incidence of cardiovascular problems of they have had a covid infection) but it's a killer. Should we just carry on tolerating 'normal' flu deaths every winter or try to do something to protect the vulnerable from dying?