Soaps - Would they be better if they were more realistic?o silly?

To be serious, i think some TV soaps are quite harmful. Grit your teeth and watch Kyle or similar. The people on the show seem determined to make their lives into high melodrama - echoing the emotional style of soap characters - "I can never forgive" etc etc "there is no way..." etc etc
Where in soaps is the bravery, dignity, maturity, common sense and tolerance that would help real people to better manage their relationships?
But of course reasonable behaviour does not make for entertaining TV. We also have an element of the press that plays this game, making up torrid tales of love and revenge amongst "celebs". This reinforces the idea that this is how adults behave.

I used to watch and totally enjoy soaps at one time and my DD1 wanted to be Angie Watts! I stopped watching some years ago when storylines became more and more improbable and over dramatic. Also work became more demanding and I was not home early enough to be ready to enjoy what was then a 7:30 programme.

I think that for 'Jeremy Kyle' participants soaps and life have got confused! I do think that there are some folk who think life is dull if it is not lived a soap pace and , on a serious not, think soaps have contributed to as many social ills as much as they have tried to educate viewers.

I try to listen to The Archers if I can..but that is so slow you can miss it for ages and still know what's going on! I can remember in my Nana's house we had to be quiet on Sunday morning..roast was in the oven , veg prepared and so she could relax & listen to The Archers!

JessM I've always remembered Daphne giving birth! My daughter and I still have hysterics about it I had townee friends who were big Archers fans and were discussing Tony's problems with his silage clamp in great depth before finally turning to me and saying "actually what IS a silage clamp?"I loved the fact that they could get so involved in the programme while not understanding half of what they were talking about.

Well, celebgran, re Karl and whether he'll ever be found out - my eldest noticed that when he came back to the bistro after starting the fire, Paul the fireman turned round and sniffed, with a puzzled expression on his face that seemed to say he could smell the petrol or whatever it was on him. My DD managed to find and show me the clip and she was spot on. We thought this was how he was going to be found out - I can't imagine how this could be resurrected after all these weeks though!

They say that Corrie is usually very moral and makes sure that the wrongdoer gets their come-uppance. It never happened for the maungy Leanne though when she burnt down her own restaurant - I wish it would, as I can't do with her miserable face and yappy voice.

Bit like the archers, eh Deeda - which I listened to for decades until I got fed up with the writers making all the irritating characters female while men get written as "loveable rogues".
My favourite ever soap moment was in Neighbours, years ago, when the kids used to watch it after school. A woman called Daphne gave birth on a river bank without removing her dungarees

Never mind the ospreys! What about the menage a trois with the jackdaw and the two magpies on Springwatch Unsprung? Even Eastenders wouldn't get away with that one
The only soap I watch now is Doctors which is so hysterically unrealistic I can't resist. I've lost count of the number of women who've given birth on the surgery floor while waiting for the ambulance! The shortest labour I've managed is 9 hours - I obviously wasn't trying!
Many years ago I used to watch Emmerdale Farm - as it was then. It was lovely and depicted the sort of things that went on in my own village. A bit of extra marital sex, but no plane crashes, murders or explosions!

Osprey love life reached new heights last night on Springwatch, with 3 females competing to move into Monty's pad. Much boyfriend abuse, stalking , harrassment etc. Seems that he finally bowed to the persistence of a rather bruising big female from England. Who would have thought - in quiet mid Wales? Predict he will be an osprey-pecked husband

I have only ever watched one episode of Corrie - no idea why! We follow Eastenders avidly, again, no idea why, - it drives us mad. Just plain daft, I suppose, and I think we sometimes watch to see how much worse it can get.

Though I think much of Coronation Street is silly, I do love its humour. I especially liked Rita's description of Norris as "Jodrell Bank in a cardigan". And I think Roy's mum's acerbic comments are very witty.

I'd completely forgotten about the Michelle/Ryan saga - which only goes to show that soaps go in one ear and out of the other.

I watch the Pobol y Cym omnibus - with subtitles, and really enjoy it. It covers a wealth of issues and doesn't strike me as forced even though the village folk seem to have every problem going! The combination of serious dilemmas with one scenario and humour with another makes it, I think, well balanced. I can't get into the other soaps at all.

Gosh well done happy nana totally forgotten that one!

Am corrie fan. Do hate this business with Karl will he ever be found out?

Springwatch last night reminded me of soaps. It was about Ospreys and the webcam photos of the nest were superb HD closeups. They can track the individual birds.

Osprey called Monty (I think) turns up late (from a winter in Africa) to discover potential love of life flew out just the day before, having waited in vain for his arrival. Then a bedraggled young hussy turns up and demands lots of attention and presents (trout, mullet etc) while promising torrid times just as soon as she gets over her jet lag. After lots of posh dinners she leaves him in the lurch. Why do chaps always fall for the helpless ingenue act? His usual girlfriend still not shown up from Africa. Has she missed her flight? Has she deserted him for another Osprey. More excitement in tonight's episode.

Yes - I remember now!

Absolutely certain. It came to light because the the guy that is Ryan's real Dad (i.e. not Michelle's dead husband) started stalking Ryan because he had found out from some tests with the lad he thought was his son (Alex) that he was not Alex's Dad. He had found out from the hospital that Ryan had been born about the same time as his son. (Don't forget it's Soapland). Anyway, to cut a long story short Michelle and Liam (her brother) - yes it was quite a while ago - went round to the guy's house to confront him. The door was opened by Alex and Michelle nearly fainted because Alex was the image of her dead husband. Anyway, when everybody knew who everybody was, Michelle carried on seeing Alex for a while but Ryan even knowing the truth decided that Michelle was the only Mum he'd ever known and didn't want anything to do with his real family, though he did see his real Dad for a while.

Hmm...actually, that storyline does ring a slight bell, now you mention it. It's like all those children of Ken Barlow's that never get mentioned from year to year....

Are you sure, HappyNanna?
Michelle's only been in Coronation Street for a few years and Ryan was already a teenager....

Totally agree with the comments that some of the story lines are unrealistic. We have a saying 'it could only happen in soapland'. In Corrie, one storyline in particular has always annoyed me. Michelle's son Ryan was supposed to have been swapped at birth in hospital with 'Alex' (I think his name was) who was her real son but no mention has been made of him for years.

I don't watch soaps I think mainly because you have to keep watching day in and out.

I'd watch say a series which as a complete storyline in one or two nights.

Doesn't most of this apply also to many novels?

The dreary details are missed out and everything is a bit larger than life.

I have accepted that a series which just showed the lives of ordinary people would be pretty boring, but it is a bit daft that inhabitants of Coronation Street are 56 times more likely to die a violent death than the average Briton. The conveyancing bit annoys me, as does the way serious crimes are tried within weeks, and nobody has any relatives outside the street to attend their weddings or funerals. Mothers are usually in Spain and Cyprus when their daughters get married, and don't seem able to fly back.
When a character dies, or moves away, they are rarely mentioned again.
Factory workers can afford to buy rounds in the pub, and Emily, the devout methodist, is partial to a sweet sherry.
On the plus side, the child actors become extremely accomplished (I wish the Archers team could use the same agents) and the humour is great. Some of the accents are a bit dodgy - I speak as somebody who grew up in Salford.
Young writers don't seem to check their facts - in Emmerdale Jack started out as a successful novelist living in Italy, who came back to run the farm when his father died, but in a later programme claimed to have been farming all his life. They also sold Emmerdale Farm but miraculously became owners again later on. These anomalies are annoying to faithful supporters.

I have given up soaps entirely. Nothing good ever happened in East Enders. No-one ever seemed to have a steady job and yet no-one ever claimed benefits!

I agree with all that, but I still love Eastenders!

I went right off Eastenders - the characters became more and more unlikeable and the plots increasingly unpleasant. Though I was born in South London and have lived for many years in East London, I don't think I've ever met people as obnoxious and unprincipled as the people on Eastenders.

I find soaps very addictive, you just have to know what the people are up to. They become like real people living real lives. My SIL is more interested in her soaps than any of us!
I weaned myself off EastEnders years ago and just went 'cold turkey'. My only indulgence is the Archers which I have listened to since I was a child.

And people buy or rent houses practically overnight - if only!