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plays where the actors can't do the accent

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Yammy Thu 20-May-21 12:23:06

Does anyone else feel like me? I am originally from Cumbria and waited in anticipation for the new ITV four-part play that started on Monday set in Keswick.
The plot seems quite good the acting convincing the scenery beautiful, but where are the Cumbrian accents not one actor with an authentic one, one near-miss with a Yorkshire.
Other people in different parts of the country must feel like this as well.
The only time we hear a local accent is when we are visiting and a local farmer is on the news or on country file when they are visiting somewhere local.
Do Cumbrians not take to the stage or is the accent odd o and so obscure no one can emulate it.

Molly10 Sun 23-May-21 10:53:14

bunny17

Martin compston made a fab job of Londoner Steve Arnott in line of duty ?

This made me smile. I hasten to add not because it isn't true as he is brilliant but I recall, when he was in a Scottish play/film using his own Glaswegian accent, seeing comments about how awful his attempt at a Glaswegian accent was. Lol, you just can't please some folks.

Edith81 Sun 23-May-21 10:52:55

Years ago I met a young Spanish lad who spoke excellent English but with a slight Scouse accent . Turned out he learnt to speak English through listening to the Beatles. ?

Marmight Sun 23-May-21 10:48:24

I’ve just watched Rebellion on Netflix. I’m usually able to pick up most accents but the strong Southern Irish accent combined with a lot of muffle had me reaching for the subtitle button (brilliant series btw)

Granny1810 Sun 23-May-21 10:47:08

I live in Norfolk. No one should attempt a Norfolk accent without proper training. We have a unique and beautiful accent. It does not sound sound like Mummerset.

bunny17 Sun 23-May-21 10:41:53

Martin compston made a fab job of Londoner Steve Arnott in line of duty

bunny17 Sun 23-May-21 10:40:53

Martin compston made a fab job of Londoner Steve Arnott in line of duty ?

Neilspurgeon0 Sun 23-May-21 10:40:24

When I joined the Navy, my class had a broad Scouser and a Geordie. Only I from deep in rural Kent was able to translate between then the first night such that they could fully communicate. They got each other eventually, but it was a long, tiring first week !! My class also had Welsh and Scots chaps with delightful, but complex, dialects.
We were all going to become Radio Operators so levelling down towards RP and especially the phonetic alphabet (Alpha, Bravo, Charlie) was strongly encouraged from the off.

Katie59 Fri 21-May-21 08:58:13

It comes down to money, some of these productions are low budget and actors dont get time to absorb the local accent fully, particularly when the previous film has been based elsewhere. That should not be a problem if its a series, although being a authentic Brummie or Yam Yam is not easy.

DillytheGardener Fri 21-May-21 08:46:03

I once went to a Shakespeare at school and the actors had a range of accents from all around the world, I would have preferred a standard RP accent. It was very distracting hearing accents switch from American to Estuary...

Georgesgran Fri 21-May-21 08:38:36

Watched Vera again last night. Love the scenery, the plots are good and Brenda Blethyn perfect for the role, but as Galaxy says her accent just isn’t right - it’s neither Geordie nor Northumbrian. Good try but no cigar, though probably not noticeable outside the region.

Gingster Fri 21-May-21 08:26:33

Ralph Fienes perfected his Suffolk accent for The Dig. He was coached by an old Suffolk man who had studied the subtle differences each area has..

When we go to our home in Suffolk, from Essex, we struggle to understand the elderly locals. It’s only an hour and a half up the road but a completely different accent.

JackyB Fri 21-May-21 08:20:51

No one ever gets Norfolk or Suffolk right.

I remember Daniel Radcliffe saying that he once acted in a play set in Galway. He started off with a generic Irish accent but the other players soon put him right and he worked hard at the Galway. I expect he is very conscious of this now, so I will watch out for him doing other accents.

BigBertha1 Fri 21-May-21 07:06:37

Taggart may have been a very good drama but I couldn't understand a word of it.

GrandmaKT Thu 20-May-21 22:36:03

I'll never forget a local amateur production of Guys and Dolls. It was a young cast and many of them struggled with the American accents, but the director had obviously just thrown in the towel with one young lad who sauntered to the front of the stage and announced in a broad scouse accent "Hiya, I'm Arry de Orse"!

Deedaa Thu 20-May-21 21:13:47

When I lived in Cornwall during the 70s there was a lot of hilarity about the first version of Poldark. Ross and George were fine because they were gentry and wouldn't be expected to have a broad accent and of course Demelza was so lovely she could have got away with anything, but there was an awful lot of Mummerset being spoken.

CanadianGran Thu 20-May-21 21:02:38

I cannot place UK accents very well, just very broadly north or south.

Can someone tell me if Louise in Doc Martin speaks with a Cornish accent? I did notice some of the harder consonants at some words and wondered if that was her own accent or Cornish.

Kate1949 Thu 20-May-21 17:48:37

As a Brummie born and bred, I've yet to hear an actor who can do a Birmingham accent. Peaky Blinders had some cringeworthy accents in it. The best I've heard was Toby Jones in the recent programme Danny Boy. It was a Midlands accent and pretty good.

Newatthis Thu 20-May-21 16:46:35

I've yet to hear an actor who can 'do' a scouse accent. I know that there must be many good actors in Liverpool but still they employ people who think they sound scouse but don't.

Redhead56 Thu 20-May-21 16:18:03

Roses I agree with you there are plenty of perfectly good actors with Scouse accents.

Roses Thu 20-May-21 16:06:04

Many actors including some famous ones just can't get a Liverpool accent anywhere near right, I always have to turn the TV off as they sound so aweful

JaneJudge Thu 20-May-21 15:51:30

They still don't sound like they are from Birmingham but I have to be honest I couldn't watch it after one episode confused raised by wolves is supposed to be Wolverhampton ay it?

Blinko Thu 20-May-21 14:48:31

Black Country - it's a dialect, not an accent. And it isn't Birmingham!

Yammy Thu 20-May-21 14:37:34

Thanks for the replies and I'm glad I'm not the only one, maybe I am getting nostalgic in my old age.
I know what the Scots people mean, it is all Glaswegian and I remember the film Kess had to be subtitled when it was shown in the south.
Maybe if it was in Cumbrian no one else would understand it except us.
Many years ago we had a laugh when a friend asked us where Ken John Peel was buried, we did have trouble explaining that his name was just John Peel and ken meant do you know.

nanna8 Thu 20-May-21 12:51:16

When we go to Chinese or Vietnamese restaurants I always have to order because the waiters cannot understand my husband at all. He was from Cheshire and has never lost that accent. Any takeaway has to be ordered by me for the same reason. A lot of Aussies can’t understand Scottish accents, mainly Glaswegian,on tv- I have had to translate for a couple of friends.

Alegrias1 Thu 20-May-21 12:49:03

Oh, one of my pet hates smile

Nearly everyone in every drama set in Scotland has a Glasgow accent. The most obvious example is Shetland, where only one character (I think) has a Shetland accent, the rest are all Glaswegian. Even Jimmy Perez, born and bred in Fair Isle. Glasgow accent angry

The Shetland accent is very strong, but so is the Glasgow one. Drives me mad!