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Would you like to see Cinderella performed by a male dancer?

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Marilla Thu 28-Sept-23 16:07:13

Scottish Ballet have announced there will a new twist in their performances of Cinderella. Audiences will not know until the curtain rises whether they will see a female dancing the role as Cinderella or a male dancer playing Cinders.

Mancjules Thu 11-Jul-24 23:22:14

Matthew Bourne productions are not classic ballet. His style is unique and combines all genre of dance and movement so he can push boundaries. My favourite was The Red Shoes.

Mollygo Thu 11-Jul-24 20:29:37

gulligranny

I would definitely like to see it BUT I would want it to be my choice, not something that someone else decided on an ad hoc basis. I chose to see the Matthew Bourne Swan Lake with an all-male company, the choice was mine, knowing what I was going to get. And yes, it was wonderful.

Agree. I loved Swan Lake but I like it to be my choice, especially with the cost of the tickets.
Maybe offer the choice when booking
-male, female or don’t mind.

gulligranny Thu 11-Jul-24 18:16:03

I would definitely like to see it BUT I would want it to be my choice, not something that someone else decided on an ad hoc basis. I chose to see the Matthew Bourne Swan Lake with an all-male company, the choice was mine, knowing what I was going to get. And yes, it was wonderful.

CocoPops Thu 11-Jul-24 18:05:27

Oops! I should have typed ... maybe not so funny AS when played by a man.

CocoPops Thu 11-Jul-24 02:21:11

Yes, I'd go. I saw Matthew Bourne's Swan Lake in Stoke-on-Trent years ago and really enjoyed it . On Saturday I went to see Twelfth Night in Vancouver where Malvolio was played by a woman. I wondered what would she wear for Malvolio's yellow stockings and garters. She appeared in yellow tights with a garter pattern. Maybe not quite so funny when played by a man though.

madeleine45 Wed 10-Jul-24 23:31:16

I have seen some marvellous ballets with Mathew Bourne and it was very good so would be happy to see him in anything

margiebrty3 Sat 18-May-24 01:43:48

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Heliotrope Mon 15-Jan-24 07:50:11

I like ballet traditional. I went to see Mathew Bourne’s Sleeping Beauty and it was horrendous, a complete travesty with for some obscure reason vampires in the last act.
Also (a little “off piste”) why were there yellow sweat marks on the costumes?
gross! Can’t the touring company afford to clean the costumes?

RosiesMaw Sat 16-Dec-23 14:21:22

annsixty

I wish I could make head or tail of that synopsis and I can’t.

I’m sorry you found this unclear.
Any specific part?

In this relocation and recasting of the classic fairytale, Cinders is the orphan child of the Roses, ill-fated drapers whose store is destroyed in a fire. The business is then taken over by a wealthy, American heiress called Mrs Thorne who arrives in Scotland with her spoilt offspring (daughters Morag and Flossie, and son Tarquin) in tow.

So as I understand, Mrs Thorne is like the wicked stepmother and Morag and Flossie the “Ugly sisters”
I’m wondering if Tarquin is the equivalent of Prince Charming?

Wheniwasyourage Sat 16-Dec-23 09:34:16

It is Prokoviev’s music and both versions have a 5 star review in the Herald this morning. I hope to see either version soon.

annsixty Sat 16-Dec-23 00:30:41

I wish I could make head or tail of that synopsis and I can’t.

RosiesMaw Fri 15-Dec-23 23:42:29

A misleading title and opening post.
No not a male Cinderella in drag or even tights, but a complete reworking of the plot while maintaining the original music..
Christopher Hampson’s lively and inventive choreography for Prokofiev’s Cinderella has become a celebrated part of the Scottish Ballet repertoire. However, this latest revival – retitled Cinders! – makes ballet history with a radical, gender-flipped twist: audiences won’t find out until the curtain goes up whether the hero will be a woman sought out by her prince or (in a world first) a man tracked down by his princess.
In this relocation and recasting of the classic fairytale, Cinders is the orphan child of the Roses, ill-fated drapers whose store is destroyed in a fire. The business is then taken over by a wealthy, American heiress called Mrs Thorne who arrives in Scotland with her spoilt offspring (daughters Morag and Flossie, and son Tarquin) in tow. On press night, the titular Rose among Thornes was performed by male dancers (Charles Waller as young Cinders and principal dancer Bruno Micchiardi as the elder). In terms of both the narrative and the dance itself, the gender twist is smooth and feels uncontroversial

So move along, nothing to get worked up about. .

Oreo Fri 15-Dec-23 21:29:41

Probably a cool trendy head teacher aka a silly woke one Nanatoon.

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it is my mantra, and that applies to little boys playing the part of Mary ( what fresh madness is that) or Cinderella being played by a man.Ballet isn’t panto.

Nanatoone Fri 15-Dec-23 19:20:34

No I would not go. I never know where to look with a male ballet dancer! I prefer traditional roles personally. My grandson was Joseph in his nativity this year and Mary was a boy. I have no idea why but there were plenty of little girls who could have played the part.

Patsy70 Fri 15-Dec-23 18:43:41

No.

eazybee Fri 15-Dec-23 18:27:24

Artos: ^I remember going to the Pantomime every Christmas when I was young. The Principal Boy was always played by a female, and the Dame was always a male comedian. We expected it. Not sure why such a fuss is being made by some over this.
Pantomime has different roots from ballet.

The title of this thread is misleading:
Would you like to see Cinderella performed by a male dancer?
This isn't the case apparently . There is the female role, Cinderella, and the male role, Cinders, plus a modern take on the story.
I thought the role of Cinderella was to be danced alternately by male and female dancers. I was wrong.

Bridie22 Fri 15-Dec-23 13:59:40

No, I would like to know the cast list beforehand.

grumppa Fri 15-Dec-23 13:31:09

I would like to know more about the Cinders ballet: is it the same score as the Cinderella version - Prokoviev? Has Cinders got two ugly brothers, and will they be played by women, reflecting the Frederick Ashton 1948 ballet, in which he and Robert Helpmann played the Ugly Sisters?

It could make for a very entertaining evening, but I would like to choose which one I am going to see.

annsixty Fri 15-Dec-23 12:00:51

Roses post reminds me of the little boy reputed to ask his mummy if the “little box” the Prince was wearing was for the Princess to stand on when the male dancer lifted her up.
Did I read it on here many years ago?

RosiesMaw Fri 15-Dec-23 11:43:59

eazybee

It was originally a 'breeches role', an opportunity for an actress to display her legs, no pretence she was a male.

I wonder if you mean the Prince Charming Principal Boy pantomime role?
Both male and female ballet dancers show their legs (and often a little bit more!) grin

Parsley3 Fri 15-Dec-23 04:57:00

Women have acted in the role of Hamlet so why not have a male Cinders who gets the Princess?

Freya5 Thu 14-Dec-23 23:31:09

No definitely not. Spoil another traditional tale for the sake of what, absolutely nothing.

eazybee Thu 14-Dec-23 19:27:57

It was originally a 'breeches role', an opportunity for an actress to display her legs, no pretence she was a male.

MrsKen33 Thu 14-Dec-23 18:54:41

I would go out of interest. It might be brilliant as was the male ‘Swan Lake’. After all in traditional pan to ,the price is played by a girl.

Suzieque66 Thu 14-Dec-23 17:03:21

I wouldnt mind at all ... as long as he wasnt dressed in a frock and a blonde wig !!