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Dieting & exercise

Monday 16th July Weigh in.

(45 Posts)
glassortwo Sun 15-Jul-12 23:28:57

What a clever lot grin I have not had chance to read the whole thread re the fitness app but I will tomorrow, I cant wait to see your results!

Thanks notso will catch up with you tomorrow. smile

Notsogrand Sun 22-Jul-12 14:48:17

Golden, the New Forest is my stomping ground...we could have met for coffee! You've brought some lovely weather with you. sunshine Have a great holiday!

I'm still filling in my app for every meal and find it helps me to focus on what I'm eating. The only thing I've eaten that is 'off plan' was a hot cross bun yesterday, but I added it to the app. (201 calories!)

Lovely sunshine here at last, so feeling good!

glassortwo Sun 22-Jul-12 11:50:55

alison enjoy your day I like the sound of a Reggae festival. grin

AlisonMA Sun 22-Jul-12 10:18:54

glass I think the app is keeping us away from this thread! I do feel like such a good girl from keeping account like this but may go off the rails today as we are off to a reggae festival in Birmingham and I suspect there will be lots of temptations. Afterwards going to DS3 and fiancee's house for dinner so more temptations. I only have until Friday before we go away and was hoping to make the first milestone before we go but am just going to miss it.

Went to Julian Graves when I saw everything 1/2 price and now have loads of temptations to resist, which I have so far. Am I a hopeless case?

glassortwo Sun 22-Jul-12 10:04:59

Its been very quiet on here this week... not sure if that's a good thing or not..........how are you all getting on with your app!

AlisonMA Thu 19-Jul-12 13:24:10

susie well done. I think if you keep your scales on a flat surface they will probably be consistent even if not the same as hers.

Golden hard to be good when away from home, life sort of feels unreal and priorities feel different! grin I'm going soon so just preparing the way!

glassortwo Thu 19-Jul-12 13:23:27

notso look what you have started mention of the C word, thought you would have learnt your lesson last year grin grin grin but you did get lots of exercise with all the ducking.

jeni I will have to look at last week as I am not sure how you did, but sounds like a loss so well done smile

susie that sounds interesting.

golden well done, have a lovely holiday. Hope you dont need the wellies.

Well I have lost the plot this week I dont know if its having GS with me through the day but its a constant Grandma can I have ... so please someone slap me!!!!

jeni Thu 19-Jul-12 13:11:17

Oh yea?

GoldenGran Thu 19-Jul-12 13:07:25

I forgot to post on Wednesday, I have lost a pound. Am off on holiday in the New Forest tomorrow, so will post when Iget back. I will be good... I will be good I really will! hmm

susiecb Thu 19-Jul-12 13:04:39

MY SW consutant has given me another plan to try called Success express which is really cutting the carbs back and increaing fruit and veg which I am doing and like it better. My scales tell me I've lost that pound I had on on Monday but she keeps telling us not to use homescales as they are inaccurate.

AlisonMA Thu 19-Jul-12 10:05:41

jeni I think the thyroid profiles may not be as reliable as some think because mine were absolutely fine but my thyroid was massive and right down in the chest, the surgeon was appalled and said it had to come out right away. I was put on 50 mcg a day and the profile said it was too much but I know people on 150 who still have working thyroids. Eventually I went to see an endocrinologist and he told me to take a lot more despite the readings because he took a lot of other things into account as well.

Notsogrand Wed 18-Jul-12 20:42:55

I'll wait for feedback on how the pudding re-heats/tastes and if it's ok, I'll post the recipe. I've got my fingers crossed because it was so much less faff than steaming all day long. Not to mention the cost of an electric ring on the cooker going for 8 hours.

(I started a Christmas thread last year yoga and ducking wasn't quite enoughgrin)

yogagran Wed 18-Jul-12 20:30:15

I didn't know about Julian Graves, that's a shame. Although I've often been surprised to see that shop in the same street as Holland & Barrett. Will you let us know about the microwave pudding notso and the recipe if it's a success.

Perhaps we should start a "preparing for Christmas" thread [ducks down quickly]

Annobel Wed 18-Jul-12 20:28:18

Oh no! I didn't know that. I will miss that source of dried fruit.

jeni Wed 18-Jul-12 20:27:57

Can we have this recipe?

Notsogrand Wed 18-Jul-12 20:21:56

I am! I was given a recipe for a pudding that can be cooked in the microwave. (I usually steam on the stove for 8 hours and re-heat in the microwave on The Day) As it's a different recipe and method to my tried & trusted ones, I always planned to do a road-test one before Christmas. SIL loves Christmas Pudding and as it's his birthday next week, he's getting a road test one in with his birthday presents!

Only 7/8 minutes in the microwave, about half the time it took to weigh & assemble the ingredients! It looks and smells great. But the proof of the pudding......grin

Oh, and the decision to do it was prompted by Julian Graves going into Administration. Such a shame and I really hope they get 'bought up' by someone, but it did mean that I bought all my dried fruit etc for several C puds/cakes at half price in the local shop.

Annobel Wed 18-Jul-12 19:53:27

Notso, please tell me you aren't cooking Christmas pudding in July!

yogagran Wed 18-Jul-12 19:52:24

not so - are you really making your Christmas Puddings today? I'm most impressed if you are

Ella46 Wed 18-Jul-12 19:18:36

I have no scales but I do feel a bit thinner. I've managed a 30min very brisk walk today, after a 1 hour exercise class, and I think that my food intake has gone down slightly (smaller plates).
Tomorrow I'm lunching out, but we've changed the venue to the vegetarian cafe where the salads are scrumptious, so I am trying glass. wink

Notsogrand Wed 18-Jul-12 18:53:48

Confession time. I've just eaten about 3 teaspoons of raw Christmas Pudding mixture. shock It isn't listed on MFP, but cooked CP is on there so I've added half a slice to my intake for today. 153 calories!!!! blush

jeni Wed 18-Jul-12 11:57:41

If your thyroid profile is ok it can't be thyroid lack.

Weight this am :- 13 2

AlisonMA Wed 18-Jul-12 10:55:53

Thanks glass I think it may all be down to the lack of thyroid. I'm happy for everyone else though

glassortwo Wed 18-Jul-12 10:38:09

Alison I think you are just going to have to be careful over the choice of foods and try not to be tempted with tasty bits, and if you like a glass of wine that can also slow down your loss.

AlisonMA Wed 18-Jul-12 10:34:03

Thanks glass for this most informative response. I do have some more questions though, sorry.

1 I don't have a thyroid gland so all my thyroxin comes in tablet form, does that make a difference?

2 I am losing less than a 1lb per week and have been from the beginning so how does that impact on this theory.

3 When I first went to see an Endocrinologist about my thyroid he disagreed with this theory and said that anorexics lose weight and so did those in Belsen. What is your opinion of this? (he did tell me there was nothing wrong with my thyroid and it was later discovered it had grown hugely into my chest cavity!)

4 I wasn't eating very much before I started dieting but was putting on lots of weight so how would eating more now help? I never ate bread, potatoes, pastry etc. Mainly I lived on fruit and veg with a little pasta or rice once or twice a week. I have been eating like this for many years.

Sorry, I'm really not being difficult, I really do want to lose weight but am at a loss about how to do it.

glassortwo Tue 17-Jul-12 22:39:18

yoga well done a 1lb off smile

glassortwo Tue 17-Jul-12 22:38:01

alison about 25 years ago I had a gall bladder removed but had to wait a long time before I could have the op, I was living on veg for the 1st 6mths no oil/fat/bread etc, nothing other than the veg, then I was able to introduce a little chicken. When I went back to see the consultant I thought I have to have lost weight eating next to nothing, I climbed on the scales and my weight was exactly the same I was stunned.... the Consultant said he had not expected me to loose anything as I was not eating enough and my body had gone into starvation mode and held onto everything it had.

I have found this on the
www.coachcalorie.com/not-eating-enough-calories-to-lose-weight/

What Happens When You’re Not Eating Enough Calories?
When most people start dieting, they slash their calories and add a large amount of exercise to their daily routine. That’s fine, but they usually cut their calories way too low. Add in the extra exercise, and all of a sudden you have an extreme calorie deficit that is working against you.
Not eating enough calories causes many metabolic changes. Your body is a smart machine and senses a large decrease in dietary energy. Your large calorie deficit might work for a few days or even weeks, but eventually your body will wake up and sound alarms that it needs to conserve energy. It doesn’t want to just waste away. It needs that energy (fat) to survive. So, what does your body do when it senses prolonged energy restriction? Not eating enough calories…
Slows down thyroid production – Your thyroid is responsible for fat, carbohydrate, and protein metabolism among other things. Your body has the ability to slow down thyroid output in an effort to maintain energy balance [1].
Decreases muscle mass – Muscle is highly calorie intensive to maintain. In a prolonged extreme calorie deficit, it is one of the first things that your body looks to get rid of. Your body needs the fat, wants the fat, and the muscle can be spared. It breaks down the muscle tissue and uses it for energy.
Lowers testosterone levels – An important hormone for both men and women, testosterone is just one of many hormones that are affected with severe calorie restriction [2]. Testosterone is anabolic to muscle tissue. Without it, it becomes that much harder to maintain, let alone put on muscle mass.
Decreases leptin levels – Leptin is one of many energy regulating hormones. More importantly, it’s a “hunger” hormone that tells you whether to eat or not. High leptin levels signal that it’s OK to stop eating, while low leptin levels are a signal to eat more energy. Because of this, leptin levels decrease in calorie restricted environments [3].
Decreases energy levels – There are many physical actions your body takes when you’re not eating enough calories to lose weight, but there are also some mental ones. Neurotransmitter production is limited, which can lead to a lack of motivation. It’s your body’s way of telling you to “slow down” – conserve your energy.
How Many Calories Should You Be Eating?
Your goal should be to eat as many calories as possible and still lose weight. You always want to start high and then come down with your calorie intake. It’s much easier to do this than come up in calories after your weight loss has stalled and you’ve lost all your motivation. How many calories should you eat? There is no perfect number. Each person’s metabolism is different. Calorie calculators are a good starting point, but they can’t take into account all the individualistic variables. To do that, you need to find your calorie intake through experimentation. I laid out a plan to determine this number in – How Many Calories Should I Eat? You might want to give it a read.
The problem is most people want the weight gone, and they want it gone now. Weight loss is a patience game. It takes time and consistency to make it work. Losing 2lbs per week is the most I would aim for. At this pace, it will ensure that the majority of your weight loss is coming from stored body fat instead of muscle. You will also give yourself the best chance to build muscle while you lose fat, which is what you should be striving to do. It will make weight loss much easier if you can hold onto your muscle, or even put some on in the process.
So if your progress has stalled, but you think you’re eating the right foods and exercising intensely, more than likely your problem is that you’re not eating enough calories to lose weight. Eat as much as you can, get in as many nutrients as possible, and your weight loss will start moving forward again.