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Fat Welsh men & women

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absentgrana Tue 04-Sept-12 08:38:57

On BBC Breakfast this morning there was an item about how Wales is second only to the USA in the percentage of the population that is obese. Most unhelpfully the reason was not very clearly explained, although they did mention that the criteria for surgery (gastric bands, etc) are very strict in Wales. They briefly interviewed a 20-year old man who weighs 35 stone. How can anyone get that big? Why didn't he start taking more exercise and eating less when he first put on excess weight? He must have noticed that his clothes were becoming too tight and that he couldn't run as fast on the rugby pitch before he got to 20 stone, never mind 30. I appreciate that weight creeps on insidiously and that it takes time to lose excess weight and keep it off, but I still don't understand how anyone can get that big.

Andy8100 Thu 13-Sept-12 15:51:47

According to latest analysis,water and green tea is the best way to get rid of your bodyweight.I took 8 to 12 associated with water progressively and 2 to 3 times cup of tea in a day.And now i feel much distinction in my bodyweight.

NfkDumpling Thu 06-Sept-12 22:15:55

Thought I'd google again and on the first two pages: 14 porn sites, 1 dating, 4 more porn, 1 a magazine, 2 more porn - and then Build a Bear!

vampirequeen Thu 06-Sept-12 21:09:43

I googled BBW and found dating sites as well as porn sites.

NfkDumpling Thu 06-Sept-12 21:01:07

I have to be realistic! I did Weight Watch down to 14 heading towards 12 but I couldn't seem to loose all the spare skin. It hung in folds! That and the wrinkly turtle neck. I use My Fitness Pal to keep an eye on things but I'm happy a bit chubbier.

Greatnan Thu 06-Sept-12 20:29:32

Nfk - I threw alway all my size 14 clothes and now I have had to buy new ones. Don't give up!

FlicketyB Thu 06-Sept-12 20:27:40

Yesterday there was a big reportin the Independent saying research shows that it is not how fat you are but how fit. Fit overweight people have no more problems with high blood pressure, cholesterol or diabetes than fit lighter people. They also have the same life expectancy.

My daughter is officially 'obese'. She swims 15 or more miles a week, walks everywhere and is active around the house and garden. If she sits down she will be sewing or doing something else while she sits. She was seriously injured in a road accident last year so while she was in hospital all her blood pressure, blood sugar etc were constantly monitored and they were all on the low side of normal. The doctors have all been astonished by how well and how quickly her body has healed. As one said the outcomes couldnt be better. This is because she may be heavy but she is fit, has a good diet and this is far more important than your weight.

NfkDumpling Thu 06-Sept-12 20:09:08

grin Do you think my iPad is telling me something? Perhaps I should try it - I found a bag of size 12 in the attic that I'll never have any other use for!

Elegran Thu 06-Sept-12 18:27:14

NFK Why are you biting clothes? Is this a new diet? Plenty of roughage but few calories?

NfkDumpling Thu 06-Sept-12 17:39:54

Vampire - I just feel, as a woman of Reubenesc proportions, I should point put that if you google BBW all the sites that came up look like porn sites. I opened the one that looked OK and OMG! I fear BBW may have taken on a meaning only vaguely related to being chubby! Personally, I have a liking for the word voluptuous!

I do make an effort to keep my weight under control and stay within the lower regions of the overweight rather than obese section of the doctor's chart. It makes biting clothes easier and is kinder to my knees. Absent is right, this 20 year old is nearly three times my weight - how did he get that big without noticing?

vampirequeen Thu 06-Sept-12 17:36:29

I had appetite suppressants when I was a child. They're fantastic. You don't want to eat but as they're similar to speed they make you hyperactive. I was never a quiet child...borderline ADHD by today's standards. Imagine the effect of speed on a child with traits of ADHD smile

Nonu Thu 06-Sept-12 17:28:09

I suppose they would , probably why not around any more

JO4 Thu 06-Sept-12 17:12:53

They had some really bad side effects. I think.

Nonu Thu 06-Sept-12 17:11:38

Didn"t they years ago prescribe drugs to reduce the appetite ????

crimson Thu 06-Sept-12 16:53:22

Other than prescribing drugs like Orlistat there isn't a great deal that doctors can do. I think there may have been a local diet group near here that people could go to but I'm not sure that it's still going [govt cutbacks, perhaps]. I would imagine the financial incentives are to pay for time used up getting information and passing it on so there is, at least, some sort of statistical evidence of the general weight or overweight of the population.

JO4 Thu 06-Sept-12 16:20:28

vampire can you stop talking about squidgy bits. You haven't SEEN those pictures that I saw!

shock grin

AlisonMA Thu 06-Sept-12 16:05:29

I do think there is some help for obese people as I have been to a hospital where they deal with 'eating disorders' and the leaflet I read included over and under eaters.

Anagram Thu 06-Sept-12 16:01:22

You're right, Susie. Here's a quote from the Huffington Post:
'The National Obesity Forum said that doctors are rewarded financially for recording the number of obese patients - yet not for doing anything about it.'
What does it say about the NHS when GPs have to be given financial incentives to help their patients?!

susiecb Thu 06-Sept-12 15:48:34

As a life long dieter who has only just managed at 59 and a half to get to a near normal BMI I know how complicated the weight issue is. The thing that troubles me is how little support people get from their GPs when the weight is creeping on. Its a complex issue and just telling someone they are overweight, threatening them with obesity related diseases or giving them a diet sheet won't work. At the moment there is no special payment to GPs for supporting people with weight problems and my guess is until there is they wont get the support they need and will just get bigger and bigger until its gastric band or ITU time. Seems mad and sad to to me.

Nonu Thu 06-Sept-12 13:35:26

I embrace myself daily CSL

vampirequeen Thu 06-Sept-12 13:26:54

Well I have no intention of becoming a porn star at my age smile but I'm not ashamed of my squidgy bits. I don't look in the mirror and wish they weren't there like I did when I starved in order to be thin. My squidgy bits are part of me. I've wasted most my life trying to be something I'm not. Now I embrace myself, squidgy bits and all.

JO4 Thu 06-Sept-12 13:05:51

I don't suppose you would want to show your squidgy bits like that vampirequeen.

JO4 Thu 06-Sept-12 13:05:10

" nice squidgy bits "! shock

I suppose that's one way of putting it.

Anagram Thu 06-Sept-12 12:33:43

I wasn't disgusted - I didn't even look! I've seen pics before, but then there is obese and massively obese.

vampirequeen Thu 06-Sept-12 12:28:48

Oh I forgot about the porn sites......were you disgusted by the bodies or the poses. Sone people think BBWs are the perfect womanly shape. They prefer nice squidgy bits to hard boney bits. But then I suppose some people prefer hard boney bits to nice squidgy bits. Each to his/her ownsmile

Anagram Thu 06-Sept-12 11:50:48

So we don't all need to take statins then? wink