Obesity and fast food - is there no hope?

I'd take the doughnuts any day.

I guess mums and dads give kids the food they will eat.

I recall, decades ago having 3 sons and buying three pot noodles and three Mars Bars for their lunch during the school hols. It was quick and easy. I did always cook something better in the evenings.

I was in the supermarket queue when a younger mum told me off for buying rubbish food. I was older and more experienced than her and her children were lots younger, so I couldn't help but feel a bit smug when the reality of having children and teenagers caught up with her in the years to come.

Thanks for the link Bags.
Personally I'm much more concerned about reducing my sugar intake than my calorie intake - it's possible to stick to the recommended calorie intake and still have an unhealthy diet. Dry wines have 3g sugar per litre according to your link, so I'll stick with my 250ml a day, and continue to avoid doughnuts.
Cheers

I think the supposed health message is simply to let people know that the calories in alcoholic drinks should be counted if you are counting your calories in an attempt not to gain weight or to lose some. Perhaps health preachers think people are not aware of this, or are aware but choose to ignore the information.

The effect the message had on me was to remind me that I hadn't had a doughnut in ages and really fancied one with my free coffee.

I also, as it happens, hadn't had a glass of wine in ages but I've stopped drinking wine as it just gives me a headache, probably because of some of my medication.

That's as 'deep' as 'the meassage' goes.

This is quite informative. Alcohol itself has calorific content but many alcoholic drinks also still contain some sugar.

What gives wine its calories then, janea_?

It's a way to get it home to people - just how many calories there are in a glass of wine.

If you're following a calorie-controlled diet to lose weight, it may be helpful to know that a large glass of wine contains approximately the same number of calories as a doughnut.

It isn't a pointless message.

bags when you make wine, the sugar in the fruit, and any added sugar, is converted into alcohol.
So there isn't much sugar in the finished product.
It still seems a pointless message, that doughnuts have the same amount of calories as a large glass of wine. So what?

Re B's comment ..
* ...Does food disapproval have this effect (contra-suggestibility) on other people?"

Contra-suggestibility works with me - makes me bolshy.

There was no mention, or even intimation, that a glass of wine is the same nutritionally as a doughnut. I immediately understood the "soundbite" to mean that the number of calories in a glass of wine is similar to that onpf a doughnut. If the calories given further up this thread are correct, then that would seem to be correct too. I think that's all it was about — calories. The sugar content of wine is high. It has to be to make the alcohol. I used to make wines.

It suggests to me what I've already said - it's about the number of calories. People often don't take into account, or underestimate, the calories in alcohol.

You asked 'how can doughnuts be equated with wine?' and I suggested an answer.

Bags said
there was a silent TV showing things about health, including a picture of a glass of wine with a doughnut. The caption read "You are eating a doughnut every time you drink a glass of wine"
What does that suggest to you Ana?

Well, we don't know that the programme was doing any such thing, do we?

I certainly wasn't!

Well, a 250ml glass would have the same number of calories. But to suggest they are the same nutritionally is misleading.

There are several online articles claiming that a large glass of wine contains a similar number of calories to a doughnut.

I'm presuming that's what the tv programme bags saw was meaning to convey. That's all.

ana doughnuts and wine don't have the same nutritional value, or even the same calories.

A Sainsbury's jam doughnut has 220 calories, 3.2g protein, 32.2g carbohydrate, and 20.6g fat.

A 175ml glass of wine has 119 calories, and 5g carbohydrate. Nothing else.

Calories, janea.

Bags I think contra-suggestibility, if I understand the term correctly, is responsible for the failure of many public health campoaigns, for example the campaign against smoking has not prevented a rise in the number of young women smoking.

How can doughnuts be equated with wine? And what's actually wrong with either of them? I wouldn't eat doughnuts because I don't like them very much, but in the context of a good balanced diet, even one doughnut a day isn't going to do anyone any harm. Just as one or two glasses of wine isn't going to, either.

The problem with this sort of thing is that it puts people off all public health campaigns, not just the one in question.

My GS's are allowed what they call "Hotdonalds" for a rare treat and last Thurs the 5 year old came to me straight from school to show me how well he is reading now and had a McD on his way, but was told he wasn't to tell his 3 year old brother. He ran straight in saying "you are going to be very cranky with Dad Bobby because I've had Hotdonalds for tea".

Going back to food disapproval, of which there is loads on this thread, although I haven't read posts since Thursday, I was in a medical centre the other day where there was a silent TV showing things about health, including a picture of a glass of wine with a doughnut. The caption read "You are eating a doughnut every time you drink a glass of wine". I decided I would have a doughnut with my latte in Waitrose when I did the shopping.

Does food disapproval have this effect (contra-suggestibility) on other people? Just wondering because if the reaction is widespread, it might be useful for our health preachers to know and then they might develop a different tack with their information dispersal.

I'll wait till after the school run, then I'll join you happily. In the meantime and (WW of course)

anyone join me?

Quite! Not to worry T it's Very Gransnet.

Teetime, that's life, or rather that's Gransnet! You post a relatively innocuous observation and find you've started a hare running!