Seeing doctor about my binge eating

Most binge eaters are normal weight.

OK, before anyone corrects me, jinglbellsfrocks had two posts deleted so I don't know what they said, but I thought a lot of her advice was very sensible - and no different to what other posters were saying - until other posters piled in saying this is a 'mental health issue' and took issue with her.
Now it may, or it may not be; we are not on here and are not qualified to make a diagnosis but certainly it turned into a very aggressive thread against one person who expressed views with which other posters vehemently disagreed.

The OP said she was worried in case things got out of hand and wondered if she was wasting her money at SW having not lost any weight for a year. So presumably they are not out of hand yet - so time to take charge surely?
Most people of that height and size would be quite happy, so perhaps the problems lie elsewhere, perhaps with relationship issues?

I wondered (in an earlier post) if the OP is lacking certain nutrients and binge eats - like pregnant women having cravings?
And, of course, when we were young (but the OP is much younger!) we always had to eat up everything on our plates because there was rationing and nothing could be wasted. Another thought is that parents sometimes give sweet food when a child is hurt; 'let me bathe your knee with this horrible stinging antiseptic nice stuff that will make it better and then you can have a sweet'
Eat up your dinner, then you can have pudding etc
An association with sweet food as something to look forward to begins.

Smoking is an addiction and I know how difficult it is to stop.
I knew an alcoholic of whom I was very fond.
He was told to stop drinking and smoking or else the consultant would not operate on him for a vital operation. He did manage it, by himself.

Just a thought - what about seeing a hypnotist antjexix?

On the surface that makes sense jamila but the disorder is beyond self control and dieting. As I said before it is an addiction and hard to control ..

I have not found the NHS much help personally. They are stretched certainly and things are getting worse.

However it is a controversial issue to decide if people who have brought illness etc upon themselves therefore have lost the right to be helped. Smoking and drink related disorders come to mind. Before the floodgates open I not suggesting not helping smokers with cancer or emphysema. Just being thoughtful about others.

It goes back to some illnesses which are sociAlly acceptable and some that are not perhaps.

Thank you Ana
I was becoming increasingly concerned at all the posters 'piling in' so to speak, against one poster who merely posted her views.

Izabella very good point. I knew someone who could not stop eating chocolate, bingeing on it and avoiding healthy meals. She was pregnant, and it turned out she had gestational diabetes which did not go once she had the baby.

Good post, Jalima - I agree.

Just to throw a spanner in the works. Have you had your blood glucose levels checked? Hard to control food craving can be a sign of undiagnosed T2 diabetes. I speak from personal experience.

Perhaps JBF would like to apologise for causing hurt and we can move on and aim to be kinder and more constructive in the future.

Lots of remarks are hurtful on GN and I do not think a third party should demand an apology because they consider a post was hurtful.
If a remark is against the guidelines then it will be deleted by GN. As far as I can see on this thread, the only post deleted was by the OP herself.

I do understand the difficulties the OP is facing, I would not under-estimate them; however, there must be thousands if not millions of people in the UK with a problem with binge eating. Yes, it may be psychological, but is it beyond our strength of character to overcome some difficulties or addictions?
And yes, the NHS is stretched to breaking point.

Sometimes a hurtful remark is the spur for us to take a long, hard look at ourselves and resolve to do better in future. The GP may be helpful - or may not - but with her DD and DH on her side I am sure that Antjexix has started on the road to a healthier relationship with food.

I might add - someone said - Weightwatchers, Slimming World, what's the difference? Well, I don't know about Slimming World, but WW is very supportive and can help with portion control and healthy eating.

Please leave Jinglbellsfrocks alone, this is beginning to sound like a mob action.

If you have a problem with things like alcohol or nicotine, you can decide to keep them out of your life altogether. (Not saying it's easy, mind.) Whereas you have to keep eating food and can't decide to exclude it completely. That must make it so hard to get the problem sorted out.

Perhaps JBF would like to apologise for causing hurt and we can move on and aim to be kinder and more constructive in the future.

I think females are so much more likely to have difficulties with food and diets because often it is us who make the meals, plan them,shop and feed our children when they are young.Men don't have to think about food much. I know there are some male cooks out there too and I am generalising hugely.

Interesting that so many have this difficulty.

It's one of those things you keep secret usually, I felt ashamed to admit it to anyone (and haven't in real life). I did try once with my doctor, but he is pretty unsympathetic and I gave up. I was sure I would just be thought of as greedy and with no self control, and it's true, most people do think like that.

In a horrible way it's good to know that others have a similar problem, I'm not the only one .It would be great if doctors would acknowledge it, and if there were some treatment. Good luck Antjexix and hope your doctor can suggest some help for you x

I have noticed it seems to be always the same posters who make rude and often aggressive comments so usually leave the thread when it starts to happen . My son tells me the term for these people is Keyboard Warrior !

Please don't be put off Antjexix if you are new to the forum , there is so much support here .xx

Hope you get on ok with the doctor; don't be disheartened if you don't...some just don't understand things like this. Hope you let us know how things go...sometimes just a bit of moral support can help a lot. I wish I hadn't lived with it secretly for so many years. Also annoyed that, at the age of 64 I still don't have a very good relationship with food and eating.

I can't thank everyone enough for their support

I fully agree with the comments with regard to JBF.I do not get involved with the back biting,but have also been on the receiving end of the rude abrasive retorts,and have wondered wether it was me that had a
problem,I rarely post anymore because of this.Antejax hope you can get some support and help to overcome your problem

I also have held my tongue on many occasions after being on the receiving end of very unpleasant posts, but the problem is that if you don't do anything then you are tacitly allowing this to go on. I have no idea why some posters feel the necessity to be destructive rather than supportive but I guess there are things in people's lives we know nothing about which makes them need to act this way.

Well said granalogue Like you I tend to ignore the offensive posts but on this occasion I too felt I had to speak up.

I too usually refrain from commenting on rude, nasty and judgemental comments. Indeed any comments, because of the frequent sniping on many threads. But I simply cannot let pass the 'playground' comment from the absolute passmaster of playground style jibes. I would say that they spring from ignorance, but sadly I think they are knowingly made. Please, can the rest of us take you up on your offer to leave Gransnet to us.
Antjexix, hopefully you can at least see that you are not alone in your issue with food. Many people, particularly women, have a difficult relationship with food, often starting with dieting, and the reasons behind dieting. Food and calories can become the enemy in a seemingly constant battle which can both cause and reflect deeper problems. There is help out there, don't despair and don't give up.

I will no doubt get rude, nasty comments myself, from those who enjoy giving but not receiving criticism, but felt I had to speak up for a vulnerable woman who is asking for help.

There is no doubting that our relationship with food is one we don't understand as yet.

I have to eat everything on my plate, whether I'm hungry or not. And even if I'm not really enjoying it! Sometimes I feel sick afterwards. I swear it goes back to my childhood when we had to clear our plates!
Thankfully I've managed to remain a size 12 but it really is a compulsion. So annoying as I have so much willpower in other areas of life.

Jingl, I usually refrain from commenting on your rudeness, but I feel I should remind you that as you admit to taking anti-depressants, you may have a minor mental health problem yourself, treated by the NHS. Or did you go private? Depression can be the cause of binge eating disorder, and deserves sympathy and understanding.

Does it really matter too much whether Antjexix put her post on Health or Dieting? She was asking for advice and help, not criticism.
I too, can identify with binging on 'rubbish' food. After all, who binges on a bowl of salad? There are periods when I go into the kitchen and grab handfuls of crisps, or take 3 chocolate biscuits (kitkats, penguins etc), and hide the wrappers in the bin. I can't be given a box of chocolates without having to eat them all, practically at one sitting. I'm 5'8" and 12 and a half stones. I feel most comfy in a size 16, but that's because I don't like my clothing to cling, and a 14 would give me a muffin-top waistband.
I've dieted on and off since the children were tiny, and have accepted that's probably how I'll always be.
If I were worried, as the OP obviously is, then I would see my GP. There's no reason why she shouldn't have her concerns addressed, neither should she feel her worries should be treated lightly. Bingeing on food can also be looked on as self-harming, surely.

jinglbellfrocks You have said twice you are "out of here" yet you still continue to post. You often say contentious things in posts - I wonder if you are yourself suffering some sort of condition where you find it necessary to offend people and then cry when your views are contradicted. The OP is just reaching out for help and guidance, which takes much more courage and insulting people behind the safety of a computer screen.