Reducing sugar intake

Anya your comments addressed to me did rather shout out that you resented my contribution. Never mind.

Who said that other opinions aren't 'allowed' jingl ? Certainly not me.

We may agree or not on what makes a good 'diet' but nowhere have I said that someone can't express an opinion. Yes, it is obvious that I don't agree with you but so what? But I don't make remarks like 'you might not always be right you know'. You are entitled to have your opinion as am I and if it was black and white then there wouldn't be all this controversy and discussion.

Discussion is good. Opposite points of view are welcome as they open up discussion.

But surely I don't have to state that, do I?

I'm happy that the Eatwell Plate works for GandTea and I'm happy to support NanKate started this thread and who wants to cut her sugar intake down. I have no intention of telling her she is wrong to try, but it would seem that you don't support her intent. Support.

My experience of the eatwell plate is that we both are losing weight slowly and feel healthier for it, so it's good for us.

I am merely putting forward my views Anya. I'm not attacking your personal food choices. But this is an open thread and more opinions than one are allowed.

I like that Eatwell plate. I think it shows a good, balanced way of eating.

Glad you enjoyed the vintage Gouda NanKate ....those washabi peas are pretty 'wow' !!! too.

jingl you go your way and I'll go mine. I don't feel the need to attack your food choices so why do you protest so much about others food choices confused] ???

You don't have to save us from ourselves - if that's how you see things.

Do you really think that long or short sightedness in people is down to their diet?

Why do you need sweeteners anyway? Can't you just get used to tea without sugar? Most people can.

A reasonable amount of wholegrain bread will not give you diabetes. This faddy diet stuff is getting totally out of hand.

Too many people researching info on the net that has never been proved.

Many carbs are good and too much fat is still bad.

Anya I think you should look again at that Eatwell plate, instead of dismissing it quite so peremptorily. Given that the carbs illustrated are healthy wholegrains and the section for vegetables and fruit, it seems pretty good to me.

You might not always be right you know.

Thanks Anya for suggesting Gouda Vintage, really delicious. My 5 year old GS would call it spiky . Those washabi peas are good too in place of crisps which I occasionally nibble.

The 'new' Eatwell 'guide' has been described as 'outdated' and widely criticised as failing to take evidence based data from many studies into account.

It still flogs the message 'fat is bad and carbs are 'good'.

For us the cause of obesity is portion size rather than the dietary content.

We have lost significant weight by keeping up the carbs to stop us feeling hungry between meals. Reducing the amount of meat we eat, increasing the veg and eating at regular times. Our sugar intake has been very low for years. We also try not to eat after 6:30pm.
Our meals are based roughly around this . and for us it has worked.

www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Goodfood/Documents/The-Eatwell-Guide-2016.pdf

Obesity among children has actually fallen in recent years in line with decreased sugar consumption (especially in the under 10s) and as they are the single biggest group of sugar eaters GandTea that might prove that it is indeed the main culprit.

Sugar may well have gone down, but it's the CARBS that matter! All carbs = glucose in the blood, leading to metabolic syndrome and diabetes. I've cut carbs quite drastically over the last 2 weeks because I suspect I'm well on the way (if not already there... )to Diabetes. I have a blood test soon to check my HbA1C level, and praying that it's not gone 'over' the limit.
I've also lost 5lb in the last two weeks too, which is all to the good!

There was an interesting statistic on TV this morning. The overall consumption of sugar has gone down in the UK over the last few years, yet obesity has gone up. So it would appear that sugar is not the main culprit in the obesity rise. .
Though I'm sure any personal reduction in sugar intake must be a good thing

Not usual aid...but useful aid.

It would seem that a usual aid to going low-sugar is being removed from the arsenal. I'm talking about artificial sweetners, so I'm putting my oar in here.

I've used Sweetex or similar for 50 years now. I believe the queen carries sweetners in her bag. Like her I'm fit and healthy. My visceral fat is 8.5%, I walk 7500-10,000 steps a day. I don't need glasses to read or for distance. My BP is normal. I'm on NO medication whatsoever. The queen is pretty healthy too for a 90-year old.

I don't post the above as a way of bragging but to point out I'm not being 'poisoned' by my sweetners of choice.

This outburst was prompted by Pipps's request for a recipe to use up her oranges and lemons. I often make cold drinks from lemons using artificial sweetners, ginger and occasionally a teaspoon of cider vinegar.

Does anyone have a good tasting recipe for sugar free lemon or orange cordial. I have lemons and oranges falling off a couple of trees outside my door and it is such a waste. Besides that I am bored with plain water, even with a squeeze of lemon in, as the temperatures are reaching 30 degrees I need to keep up fluids.

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No! Say it on here!

Sent you a PM Anya