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100% carnivore diet

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Fleurpepper Wed 26-Jul-23 13:30:24

Just hosted someone (much younger and from different continent so no chance she will read this) - who has adopted 100% no carbs and carnivore diet, + cream and butter.

She has lost half her body weight, as she was morbidly obese and has regained a lot of mobility. But surely this is NOT the wax, for health and environment issues.

Your thoughts?

Tizliz Thu 27-Jul-23 17:31:42

Fleurpepper

Never heard of this blood type type diet. Must say I feel a bit dubious, but will have a look.

Anyone else here with the rare blood group AB+?

I am AB-

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 27-Jul-23 17:24:57

And for many others I expect. It’s sensible to follow your doctor’s advice before embarking on an extreme diet.

My husband eats a great deal less meat than he did when I met him, and far more veg!

Fleurpepper Thu 27-Jul-23 17:09:35

GSM, my OH has kidney damage since a strep infection in his early 20s- he is not allowed to eat a lot of protein. So would be very bad for him.

Fleurpepper Thu 27-Jul-23 17:08:30

Never heard of this blood type type diet. Must say I feel a bit dubious, but will have a look.

Anyone else here with the rare blood group AB+?

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 27-Jul-23 16:59:33

I can imagine my husband loving eating nothing but meat. Unfortunately for him he won’t be getting the chance and I will carry on buying the fruit and veg!

JdotJ Thu 27-Jul-23 16:56:28

I was chatting to a lady I knew vaguely this week who is a great advocate of eating foods, according to your Blood Type'.
I said I was O+ and apparently I should eat lots of red meat (difficult as I'm vegetarian so that's not going to happen) but she also told me NOT to drink orange juice, as very bad for those who are blood type O+

Norah Thu 27-Jul-23 16:26:09

Germanshepherdsmum

They sound essential with a diet like this!

Indeed.

However, many people take Vitamins/minerals.

C, B12, multi, Calcium, Potassium, D - all spring to mind.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 27-Jul-23 16:05:40

They sound essential with a diet like this!

Norah Thu 27-Jul-23 15:57:43

Germanshepherdsmum

No greens? This cannot be healthy.

Vitamin supplements have been invented, seem to sell well. smile

Casdon Thu 27-Jul-23 15:51:35

Callistemon21

Riverwalk

Butter in coffee doesn't appeal to me, but I suppose it's not too different from Irish coffee with that thick wodge of cream on top, or the terrible squirty cream on coffee.

In travel programmes I've seen people putting butter in tea, not something I'd like to try.

It’s thing with coffee in America, I’ve been in a coffee bar where they served it, it’s called Bulletproof coffee. You can even ask for it in Starbucks, although they serve the ‘heavy butter’ on the side (I have no idea what light butter is, but heavy butter looked like our normal butter to me). I thought it looked horrible, the butter just melted and floated on the top.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 27-Jul-23 15:29:13

I like liver but the rest of the organs, no way.

Callistemon21 Thu 27-Jul-23 15:06:56

growstuff

Germanshepherdsmum

No greens? This cannot be healthy.

Greens are a great source of Vitamin C, but so are animal internal organs, so greens are theoretically not necessary.

PS. Personally, I dislike internal organs and would rather eat plates of greens, but each to their own.

I'd rather eat three bowlsful of Brussels sprouts!!

Callistemon21 Thu 27-Jul-23 15:05:35

Riverwalk

Butter in coffee doesn't appeal to me, but I suppose it's not too different from Irish coffee with that thick wodge of cream on top, or the terrible squirty cream on coffee.

In travel programmes I've seen people putting butter in tea, not something I'd like to try.

MayBee70 Thu 27-Jul-23 15:03:24

Maggiemaybe

Is this some extreme form of the Atkins diet? I tried that one once, for all of a day and a half - I just felt so ill.

But perhaps if your friend was morbidly obese this was prescribed for her to lose weight quickly for health reasons?

I did that in my late teens. Had gained a lot of weight working at a Cornish Cream Tea cafe and had lost stones on it very quickly. I didn’t drink a lot of water whichI should have done. My breath smelt of acetone. I’m lucky that I didn’t permanently damage myself health wise but I’m sure it’s why I’ve struggled with my weight ever since.

4allweknow Thu 27-Jul-23 15:02:21

Isn't it processed food and carbohydrates that are supposed to cause obesity. I have always thought humans hunted for meat, perhaps ate berries long before we grew then ate crops. Maybe not such a ridiculous diet but expensive!

Riverwalk Thu 27-Jul-23 15:01:21

Butter in coffee doesn't appeal to me, but I suppose it's not too different from Irish coffee with that thick wodge of cream on top, or the terrible squirty cream on coffee.

SunnySusie Thu 27-Jul-23 15:00:54

DD lost seven and a half stone in a year and the GP told her it was healthier to shed the weight by any method than lug it all around every day. She quadrupled her exercise and ate pulses, vegetables, tofu, fish and fruit. So losing half her body weight would undoubtedly be good for this person you met, although not for the planet. The problem comes trying to transition back to something more normal in terms of diet. I doubt an Atkins type diet is healthy in the longer term. DD found the weight instantly started to accumulate again once she began to add in the odd treat. By her own admission she is a food addict. Easier for her to exert rigid control than have just one slice of bread because one invariably leads to half the loaf! I do admire her for what she achieved, but unfortunately I suspect it will be a lifelong battle.

growstuff Thu 27-Jul-23 14:59:30

Germanshepherdsmum

No greens? This cannot be healthy.

Greens are a great source of Vitamin C, but so are animal internal organs, so greens are theoretically not necessary.

PS. Personally, I dislike internal organs and would rather eat plates of greens, but each to their own.

Fleurpepper Thu 27-Jul-23 14:54:37

Yes, which is why she is continuing with it. Her issue now will be what happens next, not with the diet, but her invalidity benefit and assistance. As she regains mobility and her health, and the associated pains and disabiltiy- what next? She will probably go from disability benefit staight into early retirement. It really makes you think.

growstuff Thu 27-Jul-23 14:53:41

The idea of a liver flapjack makes me queasy!

I belong to a diabetic forum and there are people on there who drink coffee with butter - yuk!!

Having said that, I eat very few carbs (50-70g a day) - most of my carb intake comes from veg, some fruits and dairy (lactose). I eat meat (usually chicken) maybe twice a week and the same for fish. Much of my protein comes from eggs, dairy and nuts. I'm never at a loss for variety in my diet.

I've never had digestive problems, have maintained a healthy weight all my life and all my blood tests come back as "normal" - with just a little help from medicinal friends. I've even been taken off statins and blood pressure medication and apparently I'm still within the "normal" range.

Callistemon21 Thu 27-Jul-23 14:47:38

Riverwalk

160 kilos/25 stone at 5 foot - good grief at that weight any diet that led to losing half her body weight is worth it!

The diet sounds extreme but it has worked and on balance I'd say that that is better for her health overall, compared to her previous weight.

The fact that she's now gained more mobility can only be good for her health longer term.

It is better, but she must still be overweight.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 27-Jul-23 14:46:12

No greens? This cannot be healthy.

Callistemon21 Thu 27-Jul-23 14:45:13

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I like butter, cream, steak which we do tend to think of as "the wrong things", but not on their own.

I can see how it could work in the short-term, but surely introducing different foods afterwards and controlling portions is the best thing to do.

However, I read years ago that once fat cells are produced by the body, they never disappear, they just sit in wait to be filled up again if we consume more calories than we burn!

Riverwalk Thu 27-Jul-23 14:45:10

160 kilos/25 stone at 5 foot - good grief at that weight any diet that led to losing half her body weight is worth it!

The diet sounds extreme but it has worked and on balance I'd say that that is better for her health overall, compared to her previous weight.

The fact that she's now gained more mobility can only be good for her health longer term.

Fleurpepper Thu 27-Jul-23 14:43:23

Cossy

Like it or not it’s high sugars and carbs which are actually so bad for us, my war child parents are full fat butter, cream, and meat. Meat 5 times a week, fish twice, combined with fresh vegs and fruit. They never had weight problems and both lived into their 80’s. Sadly smoking and alcohol affected their health, food was never an issue, their portions were reasonably small and their food always freshly bought and they exercised too, normally long walks.

Totally agree about high sugars and carbs- that turn into sugar- and fat.

But that does not mean, surely, that one has to cut out all good low carb veg and fruit and go meat only.

My parents never carried any fat at all, and ate a very balanced diet of a bit of everything, and lived until 94. In their latter years, being so skinny left themw without reserves at all. Smoking killed my mum at 94. My dad died of a broken heart at 96- soon after she died.