100% carnivore diet

On the surface, it seems like a good idea. But in the long run, it will prove to be very detrimental to one's health.
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Calipso

Foxygloves

Calipso

Doesn't seem to have done my cats any harm.
They are apparently not the slightest bit concerned with their cholesterol levels.

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Is it stating the obvious to say a cats digestive system is not the same as a human’s?

Yes it is Foxy
My flippant attempt at humour obviously fell on deaf ears ☹️

As did my irony

They are apparently not the slightest bit concerned with their cholesterol levels.

I doubt they’re overly concerned about the environment either. 😂

Foxygloves

Calipso

Doesn't seem to have done my cats any harm.
They are apparently not the slightest bit concerned with their cholesterol levels.

🤣🐈🐈‍⬛

Is it stating the obvious to say a cats digestive system is not the same as a human’s?

Yes it is Foxy
My flippant attempt at humour obviously fell on deaf ears ☹️

Fleurpepper What does she eat on a typical day? You mentioned butter and steak, surely she doesn’t limit herself to just those?
I know I couldn’t do it, I can imagine giving up a lot of my usual carbs like couscous and spuds, but I could never give up the wide variety of veg and, to a lesser extent, fruit I eat.

I suppose you have to weigh up the fact she was so morbidly obese her mobility was affected against the negative aspects of this diet.

If her mobility improves enough for her to be able to take regular exercise maybe she’ll be able to reintroduce carbs, cut down on fat and lower her cholesterol.

I don’t remember anyone being concerned about environmental issues when the Atkins diet was popular. The main concern was keeping the weight off when you started reintroducing carbs.

Bear Grylls has switched from Vegan to an 'Ancient' diet eating mostly meat - offal so it's not so expensive - and just a little rice or potato. Not quite as dramatic as your friend but he says he feels much better for the switch.

I can't imagine following such a diet. It feels wrong on so many levels, and goes against all the advice I have heard all my life. 'Fraid I'll listen to Chris Packham rather than Bear Grylls on this and keep meat for just an occasional meal.

Calipso

Doesn't seem to have done my cats any harm.
They are apparently not the slightest bit concerned with their cholesterol levels.

🤣🐈🐈‍⬛

Is it stating the obvious to say a cats digestive system is not the same as a human’s?

Not a healthy way to diet. She is heading for damage to her organs and she must have problems going to the toilet . If your body doesn't have all the nutrients it needs parts will stop working. And that sort of diet is a heart attack waiting to happen..

Doesn't seem to have done my cats any harm.
They are apparently not the slightest bit concerned with their cholesterol levels.

🤣🐈🐈‍⬛

Cuting down on carbs is one thing- but this is another. NO - ZERO carbs.

And yes, I think you are right, it is all about control and the fear of losing control, probably.

She was a really nice and pleasant guest- but this aspect was quite shocking. I am not gossiping btw, or criticising as such. Just concerned.

Perhaps she's worried that if she starts eating more "normally" she may put weight on again.

I've tried to cut down on carbs this week (not completely as I have eaten a few new potatoes), eaten salads, vegetables, fruit and good protein with drizzles of olive oil.

I've gained half a pound.

Norah

Witzend

There used to be something similar called the Stone Age Diet - my mother used to talk about it in the 60s/70s. Meat - with the fat - so it’d never do for me.

IIRC butter and cream were unlimited, but with no carbs, I don’t know what you’d put them on, but I suppose that was the idea. Without bread/potatoes/cake etc. they’re strictly self-limiting.

I suppose butter is used on steak, on crab, and to cook with? One of my family prefers steak with butter, steak and eggs, coffee and double cream to other food - and he is healthy/slim.

We provided her with her own kitchen, as her diet is so extreme, but she came and ate with us. She cut thick slices of butter and ate it, as well as on steak.

This is not Atkins at all, but much much more severe. ZERO carbs. Her cholesterol is very high, but she is adamant it is not an issue. And yes, soooo expensive. As she was handicapped by her morbid obesity, she is still on invalidity benefit!?!

Witzend

There used to be something similar called the Stone Age Diet - my mother used to talk about it in the 60s/70s. Meat - with the fat - so it’d never do for me.

IIRC butter and cream were unlimited, but with no carbs, I don’t know what you’d put them on, but I suppose that was the idea. Without bread/potatoes/cake etc. they’re strictly self-limiting.

There is a Paleo diet which is promoted as being nearer to the original diet of humans:
www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/paleo-diet/art-20111182
No dairy, obviously, just healthier fats.
However, it is deficient in some nutrients and the life expectancy of Stone Age people was about 30 (for various reasons, not just diet).

I would think short-term it would be fine if it is proved to help in weight loss but surely this person needs to add more variety, more fruit and vegetables, nuts and seeds to their diet?

I’m sure I read that the Princess of Wales followed the Atkins diet to lose weight for her wedding. She’s certainly kept it off (what there was of it in the first place!).

Kate1949

Some years ago our daughter lost four and a half stone on the Atkins diet. No exercise, diet only. She went from a size 18 to a 10-12. She has largely kept it iff .

My husband did the same. He lost a lot of weight on the Atkins and has largely kept it off too. If he does feel he has put on a few pounds, he goes back to it for a while. I couldn't follow it even if I wanted to (thanks to a combination of various medical issues), and the one mentioned sounds like an even more extreme version of it.

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Some years ago our daughter lost four and a half stone on the Atkins diet. No exercise, diet only. She went from a size 18 to a 10-12. She has largely kept it iff .

Off the scale?

I wonder what her cholesterol is?

Witzend

There used to be something similar called the Stone Age Diet - my mother used to talk about it in the 60s/70s. Meat - with the fat - so it’d never do for me.

IIRC butter and cream were unlimited, but with no carbs, I don’t know what you’d put them on, but I suppose that was the idea. Without bread/potatoes/cake etc. they’re strictly self-limiting.

I suppose butter is used on steak, on crab, and to cook with? One of my family prefers steak with butter, steak and eggs, coffee and double cream to other food - and he is healthy/slim.

BeverleyJB

Ailidh

It sounds a bit like the Stillman Diet.

I tried that about four decades ago. I lost 20lbs in 4 weeks but felt terrible and had breath like owl droppings.

I'm extremely impressed that you know what owl droppings smell like!

Lol!!

It's how it seemed to me - and, believe me! - no one else would come close enough to confirm or deny my suspicions!!

Grin.

There used to be something similar called the Stone Age Diet - my mother used to talk about it in the 60s/70s. Meat - with the fat - so it’d never do for me.

IIRC butter and cream were unlimited, but with no carbs, I don’t know what you’d put them on, but I suppose that was the idea. Without bread/potatoes/cake etc. they’re strictly self-limiting.

Ailidh

It sounds a bit like the Stillman Diet.

I tried that about four decades ago. I lost 20lbs in 4 weeks but felt terrible and had breath like owl droppings.

I'm extremely impressed that you know what owl droppings smell like!

It sounds a bit like the Stillman Diet.

I tried that about four decades ago. I lost 20lbs in 4 weeks but felt terrible and had breath like owl droppings.