How do you score in a test aimed at 10-11 yr olds?

My score will stay with me (and I must try harder!)... however if children really are being taught to this level why does it not translate to a more literate workforce?

At the risk of being a GOW (grumpy old woman) we are often floored by the poor use of grammar and punctuation in correspondence. It is often necessary to read letters several times over to glean an accurate understanding of the text; a comma in an incorrect place can have us scratching our heads as to the true meaning.

60%. We called them different things in my day, when grammar was my best subject! Excuses, excuses!

I think primary pupils across England are being subjected to this nonsense because it was the sort of stuff that Michael Gove learned as a child in his prep school, so he thought that this was relevant to all children. There is a lot of this going on; ministers with an axe to grind who go their own sweet way without reference to the professionals on the ground.

It begs the question, when talking about raising standards, "What standards?" If we are discussing the ability to pass this sort of test, then it is probable that standards have risen. If we are talking about whether children are better at expressing themselves, enjoying reading, being able to write a job application, then I doubt that much has been achieved and much has been lost. As to the detrimental effects on their mental health, we are now seeing children suffering from stress in numbers never before witnessed, and the services to help them are withering on the vine. This is a potent cocktail for a lot of unhappy young adults.

After a year in a large class at a city primary (46 children, one teacher, no help) we moved house and I went to a lovely old fashioned village school (2 years in one class and still only 22 children). I just failed the 11+ so went to a super new sec mod with young enthusiastic teachers. I never learnt most of this stuff. My English teacher believed the best way to learn was example, so we read a lot, absorbed a lot wrote a lot and he corrected our grammar without fuss. I passed English O Level with flying colours so there couldn't have been many questions on grammar!

I think Roxburghrose is correct. There's a difference between learning and education.

80%. We did lots about subordinate clauses etc in primary school but I think most of my class were completely bewildered by it.
I had no idea children were being taught this sort of stuff nowadays.
I think the sloppy attitude to grammar in recent years needed to be improved but they've gone a bit over the top with this.

Like a lot of people on here, English was my best and favourite subject when I was at school, but I have never heard of any of the terminology used in these tests.

Enid ....

I got 45% - How awful. I was educated in a private convent and we were never taught any of this! Nevertheless, I have a BA in Philosophy, a distinction Master's and an MBA. I have a couple of post grad diplomas and Chartered professional status. I have lectured in 2 different Universities and now hold 2 company directorships. I also read about 200 books a year (not all of them Enud Blyton). Am I a fraud? Or is this just so much unnecessary 'learning' at this age? I use the term 'learning' as opposed to 'education' intentionally.

If we all had some coaching on words like 'determiners' I expect we would all pass with flying colours!

(I had never heard of the word before I did the test.)
So who decided on these new descriptions? And why?

never begin a sentence with and, but, so etc

I've been following Michael Rosen's take on this on FB . Subjecting schools children and their families to a hoop jumping exercise designed to fail everyone apart from higher level linguists is in my opinion alarmingly divisive . Michael Rosen wittily articulates his despair and mine ! Hopefully someone will have the good sense to change things before my grandchildren have their dexterity with words squeezed into meaningless little packages so that their school can tick the box marked SPAG.

I failed before I even began. I can't find the test!!!

I got 80% but I was guessing a lot as I don't understand a lot of the new terminology. What is a determiner???

I felt the same utter despair I used to feel in exams after reading those questions ) :

I need a refresher course! Not happy with my result - 40%

I have to agree with those of you saying what a waste of time it is to have to learn grammar in such depth. Fine for older students wishing to pursue a languages degree, but to teach it arbitrarily to every student seems ridiculous.

All I can say is. Thank goodness we Home Educate and my Year six daughter will not have to take part in such a ridiculous waste of time.

I only got 50% - never heard of some of the grammatical terms.
All I can say is, if that's the kind of thing the poor kids are being drilled in, it's a complete waste of time and they would be better off learning something useful/practical. (sour grapes?)

You didn't actually have to emigrate, Skullduggery, they don't do SATs in Scotland or Wales (not sure about NI).

Oops! I scored 40% in the English but we weren't taught anything about grammar at school (comprehensive in the late seventies) and I still struggle with apostrophes.
I managed 75% in the Maths but didn't understand one of the questions at all.
I'm so glad we moved out of the U.K. and my DS doesn't have to sit the SATS nonsense. The state of the current U.K. education system was one of the reasons we decided to move.

80%, also fooled by modern terminology and perhaps rushing through?
There was an era (1970s/1980s) when children were taught no grammar at all. Now we've come round to this which, in my opinion, is over the top and unnecessary.

Re the maths test, no way would I have known anything about co-ordinates when I was 11, more like 16.

I didn't get a grade 1 in maths O Level but I'll have a go at the maths test now! ;)

I got a grade 1 in English grammar O Level in 1964. I'm fairly certain we didn't ever learn the word,"determiner ". I'd have said that some of the words were pronouns, but hey -what do I know?

Phew, redeemed myself 100% in maths test.

Only 40% and I went to a grammar school too! I really don't remember being taught anything like this though