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What exactly is this woman's position in the government?

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Anya Fri 22-Apr-16 16:03:21

Government guidance for 7 and 8 year olds:

"Pupils should be taught to:
Use the diagonal and horizontal strokes that are needed to join letters and understand which letters, when adjacent to one another, are best left unjoined
Increase the legibility, consistency and quality of their handwriting [for example, by ensuring that the down strokes of letters are parallel and equidistant; that lines of writing are spaced sufficiently so that ascenders and descenders of letters do not touch]

And she means that 'sincerily' [sic]

Jalima Wed 27-Apr-16 17:01:29

trisher !!! grin

trisher Tue 26-Apr-16 21:44:51

Oh no ! I now have a sickening image in my head of where Gove's hand is! And I am starting to feel sorry for poor old Nicky...

oldgoat Tue 26-Apr-16 21:39:12

We think Nicky Morgan is Gove's glove puppet, which explains the startled look on her face whenever she answers a question on education.

daphnedill Tue 26-Apr-16 21:21:41

Anybody would do a better job, Jalima. She's a puppet.

durhamjen Tue 26-Apr-16 21:01:37

Is there any reason why you cannot laugh at Nicky Morgan and sign the petition to stop year6 SATS?

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/122038/signatures/new

Jalima Tue 26-Apr-16 20:50:00

Excuse punctuation in above post blush

Jalima Tue 26-Apr-16 20:48:45

And she means that sincerily'

With the reference to he and him I began to think you were talking about Hughie Green: "and I mean that most sincerely folks'

Who could probably do a better job.

trisher Tue 26-Apr-16 16:29:53

Sorry that should of course be education ministers. (If she was a secretary she would have been given the push a long time ago.)

trisher Tue 26-Apr-16 16:28:04

I think most teachers have passed the point of entering into any serious debate with education secretaries and are generally now to be seen laughing hysterically at anything they say or do.

Elegran Tue 26-Apr-16 13:44:09

Could be, anno, or it could be that I have been ignoring politics and politicians for a couple of weeks. Best way to treat 'em, stops them thinking they are important.

The rest of my post still stands - a bit of ridicule has a lot of effect.

annodomini Tue 26-Apr-16 13:24:04

Elegran, maybe it's because you're in Scotland you hadn't noticed that Nicky Morgan is a female! Or so it seems. I suspect that Scotland's worst export, Michael Gove, is still pulling her strings. I would so enjoy giving her a Y6 spelling test. grin

rosesarered Tue 26-Apr-16 13:23:46

Satire is under appreciated( especially on forums) , and Elegran I agree, it's a good way to prick anyones balloon!

daphnedill Tue 26-Apr-16 13:18:01

Elegran, Who are you talking about? Nicky Morgan is a woman.

Anya Tue 26-Apr-16 13:07:56

"Satire is a genre of literature, and sometimes graphic and performing arts, in which vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, ideally with the intent of shaming individuals, corporations, government or society itself, into improvement."

'And she means that sincerily' [sic]

Apologies for not pointing out that the OP came under the definition of 'satire' as opposed to 'a laughing matter' confused - hope the definition helps clarify the matter smile

Anya Tue 26-Apr-16 12:56:04

At last! Someone who 'gets it' wink

Elegran Tue 26-Apr-16 12:13:18

As he probably doesn't consider himself to be a joke, I would think that being made the butt of satire is a very good way to attack him. Prick his balloon, don't blow it up even further by ALWAYS treating him seriously.

That doesn't put a halt to all the serious opposition to his plans, it just adds an attack from another direction and doubles the power of the assault, a pincer movement.

Anya Tue 26-Apr-16 12:05:33

sigh

GillT57 Tue 26-Apr-16 11:25:45

as the parent of DD getting into £50,000+ of debt with Student Loan Company to train as a Primary Education Teacher I can assure you that Nicki Morgan is no laughing matter.

daphnedill Tue 26-Apr-16 11:20:19

When you start a thread, maybe you should indicate whether you want it to be serious or satirical and that you want to remain in control of content. I'm so angry about what's happening in education that it's beyond satire for me.

Over and out!

Anya Tue 26-Apr-16 11:02:54

daphne

Surprise!!

I have worked in education and I have four grandchildren at state schools.....and my daughter is a secondary teacher shock

Nothing is beyond a laughing matter.......taking the pi$$ out of this lot is quite acceptable IMO and probably a more effective weapon than people realise.

Just consider the power of programmes such as HIGNFY and publications such as Private Eye.

Luckygirl Tue 26-Apr-16 10:24:39

....or get her staff not to publish the KS1 SATs papers online by mistake!!

The paper has been cancelled and KS1 children throughout the country will now not sit their English Sat this year. They will use ongoing teacher assessments .......... now there's an idea!!!!

daphnedill Tue 26-Apr-16 10:11:48

Ah well! I'll leave this thread then. The trouble is that for anybody who works in or has worked in education or anybody who has children or grandchildren in state schools, the situation is very serious and beyond a laughing matter.

Nicky Morgan is a puppet, who seems to know virtually nothing about how schools are run or what it's like to be in a classroom. I find it very worrying that she can't even defend or explain her actions.

Anya Tue 26-Apr-16 07:17:13

Oh dear this thread is turning serious when it was just meant to poke fun at the people who are running our education system wink

If GN is going to remain 'fun' then let's not get too bogged down in the politics - this is not about getting SATs dropped - but more as granjura said about our politicians being 'bonkers' and taking a satirical poke at them

More TWTWTW than The Morning Star grin please!

durhamjen Mon 25-Apr-16 22:43:26

I presume you've all signed this?

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/122038/signatures/new

To get year six SATS dropped.

Deedaa Mon 25-Apr-16 22:23:48

I remember worrying about DS's dreadful writing when he was at secondary school. I was airily told that it would get better (It didn't! He still writes like a 4 year old at nearly 40) But this just seems way over the top. They seem to be deliberately setting up more and more things for children to fail at. No excitement, no fun, just endless rules.