Holiday with the school

Hang on a minute...... you say

School trips actually enable many children to go on holidays that they wouldn’t be able to ever do otherwise

but a family couldn't do the same? Weird.

I beg your pardon Bbbface ?

Firstly if you read my post properly you will see that THEY did not pay a single penny towards the trip it was paid for in full by another member of the extended family.

Secondly because there were 3 parts of the family going together they were not in the position to choose exact dates.

Thirdly how can a school take children skiing in term time which is apparently fine, and yet a family couldn't do the same? (it wasn't a skiing trip btw). It stinks of double standards.

Fourthly where did you get the £60 from ?

Three children x 2 parents !! a hell of a lot more than £60 I can assure you.

School trips actually enable many children to go on holidays that they wouldn’t be able to ever do otherwise. Especially in deprived areas.

This is because the school will subsidise hugely in most cases and also get discounts for the very large groups going.

gillybob

You say they couldn’t afford the fine.

1. Odd that they afford the holiday but can’t afford the fine of £60

2. It’s not exactly a secret tat there is a possibility of a fine for taking children out in term time. They knew this but did it anyway despite knowing they “couldn’t afford it”

I think it was £3000 not £300 Bbbface

Still double standards at any price.

£300 for holiday to India?!

Sounds like bargain of the century to me

I think I only went on school day trips and a one weeks stay somewhere in the southwest (local) as my parents couldn't afford any of the trips abroad. We were a 'free school meals' class family, and I felt stigmatised at this - I had to collect different coloured meal tickets to everyone else from the school secretary, who clearly looked down her nose at me and my home-made school uniform. In the end I just used to take a sandwich from home to avoid the weekly meal ticket humiliation. My parents went without things to provide for me and my sisters, so that school secretary had no business judging me a a scrounger.

My school ran a skiing trip to Switzerland but I didn't even pass the letter on to my parents as I didn't want them to worry about the expense of trying to afford to send me- that was in the 1960s. I knew they had had to take out a loan with the Pru just to be able to afford my uniform to send me to the grammar school and that cost about £30 so a foreign holiday would be way out of their league. I've travelled extensively since so I haven't lost out.

We went to school camp, not far from home,lots of memories good and bad, daughter went with same teacher (17 years later) skiing. For these far away trips do they not do fund raising?

So bearing all of the above posts in mind, when is a term time holiday a "holiday" and when is it an "educational trip" ?

Answer: When it suits the school.

The rule was that if children could not pay, we still had to include them

My grandchildren's primary get round this Marieelizby almost blackmailing a few parents to pay over the top, in order to partially fund those who they know can't, or indeed won't, pay anything. If they don't get enough money in, they cancel the trip.

Our very young and enterprising History mistress organised a trip to Belgium to visit the 1958 World Fair. It was so exciting - my first trip abroad - happy memories of The Atomium and a glimpse of Mitzi Gaynor being driven around in a convertible - and wearing a white fur stole! My dear Mum must have found it a struggle to pay for this trip, and I'm eternally grateful to her for it.
Speaking of which... it does grate when on occasions I've been asked to contribute for someone's child to go on a far-flung expedition (Guides etc.) when the parents can well afford to send said child to private school. The 'Sorry we just can't afford it so you won't be able to go' phrase seems to have disappeared from many parents' vocabulary.

£3,000 sounds like an excessive amount unless it's a private school. The average parent with more than one child would be hard pressed to find this amount I would think.
I went to Austria on a school trip but sadly my father died whilst I was away so not really happy memories.

Day trip to Chester at my Primary School and a ride on a boat on the Dee.

The school I worked in, in the North West, for a good few years went to the IOW. What a journey, the Head dreaded it as he hated the ferry. Children brought money in each Monday towards the holiday. It was in a Methodist holiday house. I think it cost about £90 including coach and ferry and that was not so long ago. In the last few years prior to me leaving they went to the Welsh Shropshire border much nearer.

The rule was that if children could not pay, we still had to include them. So if someone had twins we would pay for one out of "School Fund".

Yes exactky NanaandGrampy . It’s very wrong .

Youth Orchestra trips rather than school ones for me. I remember that the individual cost was kept moderate, expensive destinations were preceded by a year of fundraising activities.

This is not exactly a holiday but I've just heard my grandson in his reception class is being taken to the woods for team building for six Fridays in a row starting soon - I'm flabbergasted that that amounts to over a weeks schooling and yet if we asked to take him on a weeks holiday with perhaps a more variety of things to see, do, and learn, we're not allowed

The other thing that I think is totally wrong with that Gillybob is that if you are a married couple you are fined per person per child. BUT if you're single, separated , divorced you only pay for one person per child.

Penalised for being married ???

In years 5/6 my GCs' school had a week in Normandy. They attended lessons in a local school and had to shop (in French) for their lunch in a nearby market. DGD loved it but younger brother was homesick. But now that he is nearly 14, and has been on an exchange in Germany, he has enjoyed it and loves the language.

The first time I went 'abroad' was in the '60s when husband got a job in Singapore.
But our children all went on school holidays, the boys on a training ship. The girls exchange visits to France.
I wonder if part of the reason why these holidays are so expensive now is insurance. There have been some tragic accidents, some where accompanying teachers have been sued for negligence.

We went to Paris for a week, stayed in a boarding school right in the centre, which was attached to a convent so not much freedom. It cost £32.32 pence that included £5 spends. The 32d was for a scarf we all had to wear outside so the teachers could see us. It was a very hot week so we were not happy.1970

I would have said that when most of us were of an age to go on school trips it was unusual for most families to enjoy more than a day out or two.
School trips were a way of introducing children to a wider world. Nowadays most families do have some sort of break so it seems to me that the’need’ for exotic trips is less than essential.
With funding cuts why don’t the schools arrange more sporting breaks like tennis, swimming etc. sports that get neglected at school but are a little easier to keep up in later life.

Being there in March, we were spared the midgies. I have suffered their onslaught on other occasions (notably on the Isle of Skye) and do sympathise.

It was awful Granny23 ! We were eaten alive all week, despite hats, nets, insect repellant , we all looked as if we had the measles! ?

Certainly Sounds like it MaryDoll