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Cursive Handwriting in Schools

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Chestnut Sat 15-Feb-20 10:34:15

A while back I was horrified to see my grandson's handwriting which was illegible! Apparently instead of teaching them the letters of the alphabet separately they have tails on the front and back so they find it easier to do 'joined up' handwriting.
They say this helps them join up their handwriting more quickly and easily. I just hope so because it looks a flippin' mess to me. Anyone got any feedback on this?

Purpledaffodil Sun 16-Feb-20 16:48:34

My old school adopted the style Yennifer shows almost 20 years ago as good results were observed from a feeder infants school. Teachers were required to use the same style on boards and in marking. It was very good for my handwriting which had never been neat despite being taught cursive.
I think the style the OP shows is pretty awful with all those curly upper case letters. In the one I taught, capitals were never joined.

BlueBelle Sun 16-Feb-20 16:32:55

suedonim my eldest daughter and myself have identical writing I often wonder when I wrote that when I get a birthday card from her it’s like I ve written it myself funny isn’t it my other two are quite different

Callistemon Sun 16-Feb-20 16:30:57

I do scribble a lot, notes, lists etc but wouldn't write anything lengthy by hand now as I'd use the PC.

SueDonim Sun 16-Feb-20 14:43:32

MawB my dad, my sister, one of my sons and one of my daughters and I all had/have similar writing despite attending different schools. I really have to look closely to guess who it’s from. I recall one time recently when the list came and I thought ‘Hmm, I don’t remember writing to myself.’ It was actually from my son. grin

My brother has the most beautiful, elegant handwriting. Trouble is, it’s near illegible! confused

Lisagran Sun 16-Feb-20 14:29:50

I think the school was called Senrab previously, Bluesapphire? I had a friend who taught there. I was teaching at Portway Primary in Newham, near Stratford, East London. We were filmed for the Open University one day as we were “team teaching” in an open plan area and it was all very innovative smile. 1969!!!

Lisagran Sun 16-Feb-20 14:17:12

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Shinyredcar Sun 16-Feb-20 12:21:14

I recognise the page of lines drawn, Yennifer, with the height of different letters. I was taught to print first. I can still do it pretty quickly. Then we had dip pens and were taught Palace Script (like engraved invitations.) It looked beautiful. I lost that when I made notes at university, and ballpoint pens helped to ruin my writing, because there are no changes in up and down strokes.

My DGS is left-handed and so I have been helping with some quick drying ink pens to stop smudging. Writing without lines is much harder to keep neat.

ExD1938 Sun 16-Feb-20 12:02:43

I was taught cursive writing in the '40s and my writing is almost illegible - but I'm very fast (and I can read it). It didn't help my exam results in later life.
My children learned like the Ladybird books and have much clearer handwriting than me.

Esspee Sun 16-Feb-20 11:51:07

I started school in ‘54 in Scotland using exactly the lettering you illustrated Chestnut so it is not new.
As a result I found it extremely difficult at uni to use simple italics when using Linnaeus nomenclature such as Homo sapiens.

My children were initially taught the clean lettering in your second illustration which corresponded with the print in their books. They moved onto joined up writing effortlessly.

Callistemon Sun 16-Feb-20 11:29:30

My writing has got worse over the years and I think it is lack of practice. Despite the fact that we do use computers, I think learning to write decently and legibly is vitally important.

V3ra Sun 16-Feb-20 11:24:43

M0nica I confuse my daughter's and my sister's handwriting. They have no connection through their upbringing or the education system: different generations and lived in different parts of the country. Strange!

Chestnut Sun 16-Feb-20 10:54:03

Nice writing Bluebelle and it looks very carefully done. I think we all tried very hard at that age as we wanted to get praised for our nice handwriting! I certainly didn't carry on writing like my previous example, as I think your writing evolves over time.

BlueBelle Sun 16-Feb-20 10:28:44

I have noticed that American all write the same so it is down to teaching

BlueBelle Sun 16-Feb-20 10:27:10

I ve still got all my school books this was my handwriting when I was about 9

Chestnut Sun 16-Feb-20 10:26:29

What exactly is the Marion Richardson style?

Callistemon Sun 16-Feb-20 10:21:49

My father's handwriting was rather similar to that shown in the OP, with loops and slightly sloping. He would have started school at the beginning of the 1900s.

M0nica Sun 16-Feb-20 08:49:25

When my mother started teaching, she had to teach the Marion Richardson style of writing. It changed her handwriting as well. In the days when we kept in touch by letter, I went through a stage of not recognising her writing on the enevelope and wondering who the letter was from!

MawB Sun 16-Feb-20 08:42:36

My DGD2 (8) is left handed and considering the contortions he requires to do joined up writing, his writing is actually quite good.
There are a few “lefties” in the family but I had never realised how much harder it is if you are left handed.
On another tack, if I may, I have a theory that different generations have similar handwriting. This is based on (not very) extensive research, coming from reading some of my late MIL’s letters and some from her best friend who was also Paw’s godmother.
They are nearly identical! Both women went to Wellington School near Ayr, so perhaps that was what was taught there back in the 1020’s.
But DD1 and other young women of her year/generation also have a similar hand - very bold and confident and extremely legible. Is this down to their schooling or their age I wonder?

LullyDully Sun 16-Feb-20 08:15:08

I was alright until they introduced italic, I could never get the hang of it. Then we had those dip pens which exploded when you pressed too hard and crossed the nib. By secondary school my writing was awful. My mum bought me a Parker pen and that helped.

Writing is harder for children than reading as they have to form the letters, think about spelling and most importantly write to make sense.I

(A friend of mine writes for BBC radio and he can neither write legible not spell.He has won many awards.)

M0nica Sun 16-Feb-20 07:45:38

My notepad stands beside my computer. I am always making little notes; aide memoire, shopping lists, hand written notes of thanks and condolence.

Writing is part and parcel of my day. Ironically my handwriting is dreadful; messy and illegible. I was in my forties before the reason was realised, I am mildly dyspraxic and while the therapy I had then helped a bit, it still looks as if a drunken spider fell in an inkpot and then staggered across the page.

BlueBelle Sun 16-Feb-20 03:11:21

We used to recite the alphabet in the kindergarten class every morning a says ahh b says beh and there was a colourful frieze around the walls and we also recited out all the tables everyday I m still good with my tables
I think there is a lot to be said for repetition We also used to have to write spelling mistakes out like you eloethan my spelling has been pretty good for me

Eloethan Sat 15-Feb-20 23:30:08

I went to three junior schools. At the first two we were taught to print letters. At the third school, we had to use a dip pen and ink and do cursive writing. I found it very difficult to adjust to at first and it held me up quite a bit.

I hadn't heard that cursive writing aids spelling, etc. If it does, then it seems sensible to get children to do it. If they're doing any sort of writing at all, though, that's probably OK, since much of the work seems to be done on computers now.

I'm not sure that it's right that if cursive writing isn't taught initially it has to be taught later. Surely the un-joined up style of writing gradually leads to a form of joined up writing without the twiddly bits?

There doesn't seem to be so much routine learning in schools now. I know it is frowned upon but I do think there is a place for it. In the mornings, we always did dictionary exercises - finding words to put in the blanks within sentences. And when we made spelling mistakes, we had to write them out four times underneath our work. I think this aids basic learning - and it still leaves room for less structured sessions. I think the vast majority of us had very good literacy skills, even the school was in a predominantly working class area in what was then in Greater London.

Yennifer Sat 15-Feb-20 23:11:41

Ew no, we don't use that one, no joining capitals in our school. We use this

Chestnut Sat 15-Feb-20 23:03:17

Well it seems I moved on from basic letters and did cursive handwriting by the age of 8 years! So it seems I did the two-tier system, learning one style first and then cursive writing. It's so long ago I can't remember any of this, and I don't know what the handwriting is called. Here is my 1958 writing. Is this Marion Richardson?

BlueSapphire Sat 15-Feb-20 22:28:12

My two DCs were at primary school in Australia and were taught the most beautiful cursive script - it was called Victorian as it came from the Australian state of Victoria and seemed to be the standard taught in schools there. Thirty years later DD's handwriting is still beautiful although I fear that DS takes after his father who only seemed able to write in capitals!
I remember being taught Marion Richardson script when I was at school in the 1950s. And then funnily enough my first teaching job was at a school in the East End of London named after her.