School staff not allowed to wear masks

I can't believe how morbid this thread is becoming. If teachers enter the classroom with this unhealthy state of mind it is going to be awful for their pupils.

It is a worry that if many teachers become ill then schools may have no choice but to close.
And teachers may die.

if teachers had anything about them they would have already made a will
And then there's nothing more for them to worry about?

QuizQueen, you've surpassed yourself today, although I realise you don't care.

quizqueen

Teachers are the biggest snowflakes out!

Another incisive, profound And well backed up statement.

quizqueen

Teachers are the biggest snowflakes out!

Yeah. I'd like to see you handle a class of 34 teenagers in a rough school, keyboard warrior. They'd make mincemeat of you.

NannyC2

God Bless you, growstuff

No thanks! He'd be wasting his time on me! Hopefully, you'll take a break now from posting fake news.

No, they're not! The people who won't wear masks are!

Teachers are the biggest snowflakes out!

US - 100k schoolchildren diagnosed with COVID in 2 weeks!
www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-uk-deaths-cases-second-lockdown/

AGAA4 I so agree. My DGS is 17 he's 6ft+ and so bigger than a lot of adults. He wears a mask to the shops and on public transport, he would have no problem with wearing one in his school. He is very sensible but there are teens who won't be, and who will be indulging in risky behaviour outside school, teachers should be properly protected.

Many teachers ( and indeed supermarket / shop workers) have worked through the pandemic without masks, so it does suggest the risk of infection is low.

They have not been working in the crowded conditions of a typical classroom.

How have teachers been 'made to' do this?

God Bless you, growstuff

post* not "posrst"

This appears to be the FullFact posrst to which you were referring NannyC2:

fullfact.org/online/italy-covid-5g/

NannyC2 Fact Check says that those claims are false if you read the next paragraph!

That was the whole point of the Fact Check article.

Yes, someone who catches this virus could get a secondary bacterial infection, just as they can with 'flu, which can be dangerous.

BTW The risk of teenagers transmitting virus is as high as it is for adults. It's because some people disregard sensible precautions that the UK has such appalling case and death rates.

NannyC2 That is absolute nonsense! Covid-19 is not caused by bacteria.

It is not at all outrageous that people are realistic once they are given facts, not ridiculous claims.

@Gagajo, if teachers had anything about them they would have already made a will. You do not have to a set age to make a will.

Trisher my daughter teaches 16 -18 year old students. I agree that they and their teachers should wear face masks. They are not children at that age.

It is a worry that if many teachers become ill then schools may have no choice but to close.

Figures and stats keep changing all the time which I am sure you have noticed.
It is outrageous how people are being made to sink into a very deep fear.
Children need to be back in school as risks appear to be very low.

Interestingly, I came across The UK’s Independent Fact Checking Charity which has an almost 1,000 word long post which begins:

“Well! Well! Well! People are Waking up! Italy went against the WHO, saying no autopies [sic] on Covid-19, (wonder why?) Italy Did 50 autopsies and here's something you all need to read, before the nonexpert experts from FB delete it!”

The post claims, amongst other things, that Italy went against the WHO to perform post-mortems on Covid-19 patients, and found the disease is caused by a bacteria that causes blood clotting, not a virus.
There is a lot more information included.

We will get through this and there is a very bright light at the end of this awful long tunnel.

I do think that teenage pupils should be required to wear masks and teachers should be able to do so if they wish. It's interesting to look at the Covid Guidelines about outside you home www.gov.uk/government/publications/staying-safe-outside-your-home/staying-safe-outside-your-home and then compare them with what is expected in schools face to face contact and shouting being particularly of concern . As someone said on another thread would you send your teenage child into a pub,cafe or other indoor facility where social distancing wasn't being practised and masks were not worn?

Well done! It's finding out what motivates them that is important.

If teachers are being asked to sign a document agreeing to not wearing a mask, it suggests that the school are attempting to obtain an agreement or variation to their terms of employment. Therefore it is for individual teachers to decide whether to sign and give up thwirvright to choose. Whether they still be an effective teacher muffled by a mask is a consequential issue. Perhaps
Clear head visors might be an option for the small minority of teachers concerned about the small risk. Many teachers ( and indeed supermarket / shop workers) have worked through the pandemic without masks, so it does suggest the risk of infection is low. It is obviously higher for NHS workers working in an environment with a high numbers of actual cases.

Callistamon
Same here. My daughter was having a terrible job getting grandson motivated ( he does have the attention span of a gnat ?)
She contacted the school for advice. They asked what was he taking in his options when he goes back.
They sent work that he will be doing. Because he now has something that he's interested in he's done so well that the school sent him a certificate. I gave him money ?