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6th form education

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Nurseundercover Sat 31-Aug-24 09:07:57

This is a very large state school, sorry should have clarified.

Chardy Sat 31-Aug-24 08:42:25

Because schools are run as businesses, it is not particularly uncommon for courses to be pulled at the last minute because there aren't enough students (same as uni courses). And because some schools 'headhunt' students from other schools, this is what can happen. The worst part (other the upset to pupils and families) is that in a time of huge shortages of specialist teachers, there are A level teachers with no groups in one school, and groups with no specialist teacher in another.
But this is how modern UK govts want education run. I don't remember when it started, but I do recall Thatcher talking about 'excess school places' in the 1980s, not realising that families move around the country, and that if you move into an area, your child needs a school place somewhere vaguely near.

loopyloo Sat 31-Aug-24 08:06:57

Good point Witzend.

NotAGran55 Sat 31-Aug-24 08:05:00

*then not them

NotAGran55 Sat 31-Aug-24 08:04:25

I have never heard of an entire sixth form being closed in a school. Specific A levels are occasionally dropped due to poor numbers, but them with plenty of notice before the start of the academic year.

Witzend Sat 31-Aug-24 08:02:51

Is it an independent school where numbers have perhaps fallen down to the proposed added VAT?

Realistically I would think her best option would be to ask her former school whether she can return.

Visgir1 Sat 31-Aug-24 07:58:04

Is it a private 6th Form in the UK?
If private it's been caught up in the VAT the new Government has imposed, and families have pulled their children.

David49 Sat 31-Aug-24 07:50:58

Bad luck the school not having enough applicants to run the course, better to cancel at the start than to struggle with a poor quality course, her previous school would seem the best alternative. As for uniform most 6th formers here seem to dress in mufti.

There are quite a few colleges offering A Level courses, some residential that are becoming very popular, 2 grandsons have done them, no tuition fees, just pay accommodation if residential.

Mamie Sat 31-Aug-24 07:44:06

Not sure the uniform is relevant, because "appropriate dress" is usually required and I suspect that is what the OP meant. The important question is, is it an Independent School, LA run or Academy chain? Is is an all through secondary or Sixth Form College?

eazybee Sat 31-Aug-24 07:26:51

This sounds strange. Is it a private school? School uniform for the sixth form? There is generally a dress code but no uniform. It sounds as though this school is poorly managed, to have made the decision to pull its sixth form so late; this girl would be better applying elsewhere, possibly to her former school even though it is single sex.

Tuaim Sat 31-Aug-24 05:39:50

Wow! Seems unusual. It must be quite a small school not to do a 6th Form course of any sort. And, often, small groups used to be run for 6th Form subjects because they were being trained for uni entry. I would be horrified if any of my local schools did this because surely a whole set of arrangements are made for staffing, curriculum planning, etc way ahead of the autumn term starting and the school should have set its budgets out way ahead of the new school year. Is this some modern business model dealing with short notice cut backs or something? And a uniform? I thought most 6th form schools allowed an almost free rein with uniforms. Looks like they are going to have to request refunds and see if perhaps she can stay at the school she is at (all girls?). If that were my daughter, or indeed if I were a member of staff I would be up in arms? Also, what about the cost of the curriculum and the teachers that would have been allotted to the A level subjects? How would their timetables be filled? Sounds like poor management to me. I hope she finds what she is looking for. They work so hard and are so earnest at that age, they deserve all the support they can get. Your daughter and granddaughter will need to develop teeth to find out what is going on.

Nurseundercover Sat 31-Aug-24 03:17:23

My eldest granddaughter has been attending a girls high school from school years 7-11. Having done well in her GCSE’s she decided to apply to attend 6th form at a mixed school and was subsequently sent her confirmation of placement last week to be starting on Tuesday 3rd September. £500 bus pass was duly paid for by her mum, and appropriate 6th form uniform purchased. Then yesterday 30th August she was sent an email informing her that as there had been poor numbers applying for 6th form the school had decided that they were no longer running 6th form. Naturally you can imagine this has thrown her into turmoil and anxiety. Can schools be allowed to do this to students at this late stage after confirming her place. This is fundamentally wrong and out of order. My daughter has always guided her children to be well behaved, value education as your future by and large depends on it. This makes a mockery of student’s wellbeing and certainly lacks respect. Has anyone else been treated in this appalling way, is this even allowed. I would appreciate your thoughts confused.