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Starblaze Mon 25-Nov-19 22:22:20

A few I still need to work on a bit more here but I remember being this person and how unhappy I was.

www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/tech-support/201811/12-wrong-assumptions-unloved-daughter-makes-about-life?fbclid=IwAR2_mPcSuRMrJAtTuVEb8iWrHaCzJccxP_B0UQVAep-UMGOq1VXenp-nz8Y

Pantglas2 Wed 08-Jul-20 21:16:08

You’re both right Starblaze and HolyHannah, you have your opinions and I have mine and long may that be the case?

Starblaze Wed 08-Jul-20 21:03:05

Pantglas I don't mind that you can't see how she treats me or some other estranged children here.

HolyHannah Wed 08-Jul-20 21:00:59

Pantglas2 -- Perhaps you should do some back-ground reading on that subject...

Someone who describes any disagreement with them as "waving a red rag in front of a bull" and everybody around them that has known them for 'that long' should know THAT and that they will NEVER apologize because THEY have done "nothing wrong"... might not BE exactly the most "reasonable" individual I can think of...

You have your opinion and I have mine.

HolyHannah Wed 08-Jul-20 20:53:37

Starblaze -- It's interesting that some people can reach certain milestones in life and not grasp the most basic of civilities...

If you make what you think is a 'joke' and the recipient says, "That's not funny..." and gives a reason like, "That IS my actual 'religion'..." most would usually say, "I'm sorry if I offended. I really thought it was a joke." I'd say, "No biggie. When people do first hear the concept I can 'get' why some might think it's a 'joke'. Have a good one." and that would be 'it'.

Much like if someone made a joke about cancer or that woman with no hair look 'odd' or something like that... My best friends wife is going through cancer treatments and I wouldn't find that funny either. I would ASSUME most would also apologize for saying something that insensitive about cancer treatments around Me...

I guess my arrogance is showing...

Pantglas2 Wed 08-Jul-20 20:53:23

I actually think that Smileless is the least bitter, least angry, most conciliatory, most supportive person on any estrangement thread!

Given her situation, that speaks volumes to all who give her a hard time and rarely think outside your own ongoing difficulties.

Starblaze Wed 08-Jul-20 20:48:57

Smileless I'm never really sure what it is you are so bitter and angry about but there isn't much I can do to help you in your situation at all I'm afraid.

Smileless2012 Wed 08-Jul-20 20:37:52

Well it is a joke isn't it Starblaze me ever needing advice from you on online protocol.

HolyHannah Wed 08-Jul-20 20:33:43

Starblaze -- No Light-Saber... I did find one sock and a Tupperware lid though...

Starblaze Wed 08-Jul-20 20:32:51

I'm not sure if you are being serious Smileless or if you actually do have a sense of humour after all because that was really funny

Smileless2012 Wed 08-Jul-20 20:27:17

Apologise for what exactly Starblaze? I thought HH was joking when she said she was a Jedi so responded in kind. Perhaps you missed that part of the conversation.

If I ever need advice from you on how to conduct myself on GN, I know it will be the time to get myself booked into a care home.

Starblaze Wed 08-Jul-20 20:18:32

Lol!

HolyHannah Wed 08-Jul-20 20:10:59

Starblaze -- Thank goodness for the multi-verse... I had forgotten the limitless possibilities of the ever expanding existence in which We reside... Yes... Somewhere there are Light-Sabers... going to check closet

Starblaze Wed 08-Jul-20 20:05:14

In a universe of infinite possibility, there will be light sabers

HolyHannah Wed 08-Jul-20 19:32:01

Starblaze -- What do we have to 'lose' to get that Light-Saber? I'm willing to make sacrifices there...

Starblaze Wed 08-Jul-20 19:17:21

I think teaspoons do that too grin

HolyHannah Wed 08-Jul-20 18:50:40

Starblaze -- And lost socks morph into Tupperware lids that have no container to go with...

Starblaze Wed 08-Jul-20 18:38:59

2 fundamental truths in life:

People who cannot sincerely apologise (when one is warranted) aren't trustworthy

There is never enough plug sockets

HolyHannah Wed 08-Jul-20 18:27:07

Starblaze -- I am waiting but certainly not restricting airflow to my lungs...

Starblaze Wed 08-Jul-20 17:12:53

Interesting one about apologies for the thread in general

www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/tech-support/201906/decoding-apology-real-deal-manipulation-or-dodge

Starblaze Wed 08-Jul-20 16:56:52

Smileless did you remember to apologise to Holyhannah? Perhaps you missed that part of the conversation?

Smileless2012 Wed 08-Jul-20 11:32:15

our glow/aura shone a little too bright we feel that about the way we were as a family. We were so at odds with what our ES's wife had experienced that she turned away from it (us) taking our son with her.

HolyHannah Wed 08-Jul-20 03:19:28

rosecarmel -- Both husband and I feel our glow/aura shone a little too bright and that's why we were the targeted goats...

Neither of our families succeeded in extinguishing Our light and I think that fuels their dislike of Us. "After all We did to You, You are still happy??? Where's the anger? Where's the rage you should have?"

Anger, hate and rage are the emotions We grew up around and saw as so destructive to the 'family'. We didn't want to be 'like them' so we turned away from the Dark Side and learned to nurture the positive emotions within Ourselves.

The more I think on it, the more I feel like our destiny was to become Jedi or a moral thinking person or whatever label someone wants to put on "it". Then We found each other...

rosecarmel Wed 08-Jul-20 00:43:29

HolyHannah, each move could be bringing you both closer to home, to the peace of realizing your true nature, the one we are all born with but gets eclipsed by trauma caused by those whose motion has gotten in the way of their own-

HolyHannah Tue 07-Jul-20 23:56:44

rosecarmel -- Perhaps that is the case. My husband and I had moved on from Christianity and adopted the standards of the Jedi long before We new that others were doing the same and some had even taken to the time to write some of the tenets down.

Once We realized that some actually DO identify with it as a faith/religion We just started to call it that.

Starblaze -- The person who has the highest power over Us is Ourselves... Hence there is no need for a leader/Messiah etc. in the Jedi faith.

You and I and husband all lament the lack of an actual light-saber...

Starblaze Tue 07-Jul-20 19:39:10

I actually think this is amazing, people have come together to live by a moral code as people who do not have a god or a messiah etc are also apt to do.

I'm a little disappointed that I can't get a real light saber though

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