Starblaze -- I just shake my head at the usual attitude, "Don't listen/take in a differing view, keep doing what you are doing (which isn't getting the result you want) and then throw your hands in the air with the dismissive, 'There's nothing you can do.'..." Well yes, actually there is often many things EP's/low contact parents can "do" that might/would improve their relationships. That attitude is up there with, "I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't..." That is rarely true either and if you believe you are constantly in that position, then you need to explore ways to make 'that' not the case -- Like finding mentally healthier ways of dealing with life.
The closest I come to the 'DIYDDIYD' attitude is, "I have multiple choices and none have 'perfect' outcomes... Which is the 'best' thing to do?" Abusers put Us in that position and then again act like that is their situation. Life isn't black and white to healthy thinkers but they want 100% or nothing.
Again, I find it sad that DiL's are getting slammed when having normal and realistic expectations and being told that is unacceptable.
Amelia247 -- "It’s only when/if the parents leave that grandparents can assume the control of being the primary caretaker." -- Control and jealousy are the hallmarks of dysfunctional thinkers. The 'evil spouse' comes along and all of a sudden 'mom' isn't the most important person in their life and when the grand-children come along they don't put the grand-parents first either -- they go to their parents. Instead of accepting and embracing their new position/role they push and create drama and then they get cut off and play the victim.
My 'mom' was jealous of any closeness I had to my father or sister because it was love/attention SHE 'deserved'. I cannot imagine her reaction to the closeness I have to my husband or children. As Starblaze mentioned, our EP's don't want Us to be happy or have someone who loves Us for Us...