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6 sources of tension between adult children and parents

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VioletSky Tue 26-Jul-22 14:28:43

Would you add anything?

www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/tech-support/202207/6-sources-tension-between-adult-children-and-parents

Norah Wed 03-Aug-22 14:54:16

VioletSky "Roe v wade, Plenty of british grans feel abortion is wrong"

Of course Brits also think abortion may be wrong, however Roe is about choices for ones own body. I'm 77 and have never had to face being pregnant by rape or incest, abortion choices I haven't had to make.

Chewbacca Wed 03-Aug-22 14:51:26

Interesting Norah, I've just seen today that Kansas has voted, by a 60% win, to overturn Roe v Wade and give women back the choice. California and Vermont are holding a similar referendum in November. Should be interesting if, state by state, more vote to overturn it.

Norah Wed 03-Aug-22 14:47:42

VS, There are more than 393 million civilian-owned firearms in the United States, or enough for every man, woman and child to own one and still have 67 million guns left over. That is far too many guns, IMO.

DiamondLily Wed 03-Aug-22 14:46:56

It's all about the demographics, and crime rates:

worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-ownership-by-state

VioletSky Wed 03-Aug-22 14:40:33

Only 32% of Americans own guns

Only 33% of Americans claim to be anti abortion

What percentage of the UK voted in the tories again?

Roe v wade

Plenty of british grans feel abortion is wrong

There are a hell of a lot more guns in the uk legally than people know with many who would like the same gun laws as America.

Only difference is how we are set up politically and through courts of law.

We ever give control of the courts to politics, people will suddenly realise they know very little about each other in this country, which is a lesson things like Brexit still hasn't taught us

Norah Wed 03-Aug-22 14:19:16

Chewbacca, Our neighbors, friends from Church, and friends are somewhat split on Roe, with a larger number believing SCOTUS made a mistake overturning Roe. Gun rights seems clearer, we've never met anyone who approved assault weapons for other than police or armed forces. They mostly all apparently own small guns, "for protection" - I'd ask "from what?" but I feel that might begin a debate, I'm not interested in debating guns.

DiamondLily Wed 03-Aug-22 14:16:28

Chewbacca

Chicken and egg situation DiamondLily and one I'm very glad we don't have here. Yet.

I hope we never do as well.

I'm ok with just my cricket bat - I'd never want to own a gun, and would hate to feel I had to.

I don't like the thought of my son and adult grandson being armed, but nothing I can say.?

VioletSky Wed 03-Aug-22 14:12:53

It's a British pass time imaround to pretend to be superior

Please don't think we are all like that

Chewbacca Wed 03-Aug-22 14:11:29

Chicken and egg situation DiamondLily and one I'm very glad we don't have here. Yet.

DiamondLily Wed 03-Aug-22 14:09:21

My son and family are in Illinois, and support the right to abortion.

They are also concerned about guns - but, they live about 40 miles away from Chicago, where unfunding the police has led to a massive increase in robberies, violence and murder.

So, it becomes a bit "chicken and egg" - they don't like having to possess guns, but are too (rightfully) concerned that the violence is spreading, and there is a need for protection.

Luckily, they live in the suburbs, on a gated estate, and this estate has private security.

But, sometimes, they have to drive into downtown Chicago, for work, and it's apparently very foolhardy to venture there unarmed.?

imaround Wed 03-Aug-22 14:06:17

Oh good. I can't wait for this to turn into a Xenophobic thread.

Chewbacca Wed 03-Aug-22 14:02:54

Can I ask what the general opinions are of your American neighbours regarding abortion and gun laws are Norah? My colleagues from Utah were vehemently against abortion, long before the recent changes in law across states, but they envied the UK having strict firearm laws and virtually no shootings.

DiamondLily Wed 03-Aug-22 13:56:47

Norah

Two vastly different cultures (Roe v Wade and guns are 2 current prominent differences) separated by a common language. We own a vacation home in America, the people are nice but decidedly not Brits.

Yes, my son found it a real culture change, in many ways, when he moved out there to live.

He loves it out there and has a great lifestyle, but he does notice the difference in a few things.?

Norah Wed 03-Aug-22 13:49:50

Two vastly different cultures (Roe v Wade and guns are 2 current prominent differences) separated by a common language. We own a vacation home in America, the people are nice but decidedly not Brits.

VioletSky Wed 03-Aug-22 13:48:28

Another source of tension I have recently noticed is putting opinions before someone else's feelings

But I think that is deliberate so I'm not sure it belongs

DiamondLily Wed 03-Aug-22 13:43:37

Yes, humour often reaches the parts, at times, that anger and stress never can. ?

Namsnanny Wed 03-Aug-22 13:29:49

There's nothing like humour to quell angst and gently move to understanding.

I love laughing at us Brits.?

We all have habits that could do with a blast of fresh air blown through them now and again.

DiamondLily Wed 03-Aug-22 12:20:05

Rich Hall is very funny, and Reg D Hunter is too, and he's got a wonderful; voice, like honey.

They've lived over here for many years, so they have adapted to a very British way of looking at life.

The other person that makes me howl with laughter is Bill Bryson, the author. His travels around the UK and America do make me laugh. He's married to an English woman, and he understands the humour comparisons between us wonderfully.?

Chewbacca Wed 03-Aug-22 11:49:11

I'm a fan of Reginald D Hunter too Namsnanny, I like his wry way of looking at life. Rich Hall is another who highlights the subtle differences between British and American humour.

Namsnanny Wed 03-Aug-22 11:34:20

I think Reginald D Hunter (American comedian) explores the difference in UK and US humor very succinctly.
It's all about self deprication versus self confidence. That's where the irony comes in.
He does make it funny, a brilliant comedian for my tastes.?

Iam64 Tue 02-Aug-22 22:00:30

We share a language and lots of history. Our cultures are different in many ways. I’ve always felt more at home with Europe than the USA. Sorry I’m going off piste
Night everyone, sleep well and here’s hoping tomorrow is an ok day for all x

Smileless2012 Tue 02-Aug-22 20:40:37

Strange isn't it Chewbacca when we appear to have so much in common with our American friends.

Chewbacca Tue 02-Aug-22 20:38:05

The American colleagues I worked with just couldn't understand British irony; it took some explaining!

VioletSky Tue 02-Aug-22 18:57:34

Lowest form of wit right?

Smileless2012 Tue 02-Aug-22 12:42:50

It was definitely sarcasm in our experience.