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GC65, your personality is shinning through...what a Ray of sunshine you are, Stop doing the bullying for VS and leave gracefully

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Bridie22

I hope Smileless reports that commentGC65 , that was totally uncalled for.

It is the truth, though.

Yes and some people have been banned under other names for bullying behaviour, but manage to come back to rise from the ashes

Bridie22

I have been in touch all day with GCHQ and will continue to do so until this nastiness stops.

Poor GNHQ. Still being absolutely hounded by posters who can’t cope and feel very affronted when people don’t agree with them.

Haven’t a different opinion to you isn’t “nastiness”, by the way.

I hope Smileless reports that commentGC65 , that was totally uncalled for.

I have been in touch all day with GCHQ and will continue to do so until this nastiness stops.

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Haven't we all GG65.

Bridie22

Strange GC65 and Josie you both just logging in today, what's the chances of that?

What is the point of your comment?

If you have any concerns, pass the information onto GNHQ and let them deal with it!

They know what they are doing - they’ve been having to deal with these kind of shenigans for years! Lol.

Yes it has been going on for years GG65 although I suspect you and I are not referring to the same posters.

Strange GC65 and Josie you both just logging in today, what's the chances of that?

JosieGc

I read Gransnet intermittently and very occasionally comment. I’ve seen before this awful bullying towards VS and here it is again. She is entitled to her viewpoint as you are all entitled to yours. For what its worth, I think you have been clear and concise VS in your outlook on this subject. I haven’t seen you be offensive.
To bring autism into this is probably the most offensive thing I’ve read in a while. You would do well to read up on neurodiversity as your lack of knowledge in this area is shining through. Disgraceful.

Agreed.

I haven’t posted on here in years due to the conduct of some members of this forum.

I logged on today for the first time in a while and I am sadly not surprised to see the same people still at it.

It’s been going on for years.

To be honest when I read through the thread there are many helpful thoughtful views expressed that may not agree but that present food for thought for others.

I do think that the following trends listed below do contribute to perceptions of bullying, unkindness etc but when analysed I don't read bullying, I do read upset, disagreement and emotion across the spectrum of posters plus sometimes a lack of clear response or explanation which exacerbates the situation:

*Sometimes comments appear to get misunderstood but when genuine questions are asked to gain clarification they are sometimes ignored and no answer is given.

*Sometimes views are expressed as generalisations which are inevitably triggering for other parties, sometimes AC sometimes GPs, because, for instance, a group appears to being treated as an amorphous mass whose circumstances are all the same.

*Equally when a particular viewpoint is acknowledged but disagreed with, that acknowledgement appears to be ignored. The opposing view is repeated with apparently no acceptance that others may see things differently for clearly explained reasons, or that there might be nuances etc

*Sometimes requests are made about the behaviour or percieved "style" of posting of another poster which unfortunately comes over as a telling off and sometimes no clarity about what is being referred to leading to confusion, and then requests for clarification ignored.

*References are made regarding specific posters needs which is fine but when other posters refer to that it is felt to be inappropriate. This is hard for all concerned and causes more upset and apparently offence taken.

This ends up becoming a never ending spiral of repetition, upset, anger and accusations of "personal" and eventually derails a thread really.

I have posted a lot more than normal on this thread and expressed clear disagreement with the views of some other posters. I have not been rude as far as I am aware (unless I have inadvertently expressed my self badly and not realised) and I really have tried to explain my views. When asking for clarification on a number of comments to me, including about my percieved posting style, I have been ignored. When I apologised for a post if mine apparently coming over badly, I was ignored! I'm really not sure why.

I think discussion, disagreement and debate on such important issues is good and can be really helpful to people dealing with Estrangement etc in trying to work out what is right for them in their circumstances. But all of the above doesn't really do that and puts me off commenting...until the next time when I feel strongly that different perspectives need to heard and considered! 😏

Yes that's true eddie, this isn't the first time she's brought her autism into a discussion.

In my defence - VioletSky has in the past cited her autism as an explanation for her having misunderstood various comments. Quite recently she said it prevented her from understanding nuances of speech (I'm not wading through hundreds of comments to quote directly). With this in mind I didn't think it unreasonable to ask how it did affect her thinking.
I am concerned that for some reason she is unable or unwilling to see that constant references to grandparents being abusive or recklessly harming their grandchildren is deeply upsetting to many people.
I'm withdrawing now as this is all getting very tedious

No one ever has the right to be offensive and nasty Bridie.

Being neurodiverse does not give anyone the right to be offensive and nasty, if it effects reasoning maybe these forums are a bad idea to join in with.

Accusations of bullying are very serious JosieGc so unless you're going to produce evidence by way of quotes, I think you should withdraw that allegation.

Incidentally VS posted @ 12.31 today that she has not been upset by any of the comments.

As regard to her autism being referred to in an not unkind way, if VS hadn't introduced it herself, it wouldn't have been referred too by anyone else.

I read Gransnet intermittently and very occasionally comment. I’ve seen before this awful bullying towards VS and here it is again. She is entitled to her viewpoint as you are all entitled to yours. For what its worth, I think you have been clear and concise VS in your outlook on this subject. I haven’t seen you be offensive.
To bring autism into this is probably the most offensive thing I’ve read in a while. You would do well to read up on neurodiversity as your lack of knowledge in this area is shining through. Disgraceful.

This thread has prompted me to put the contents so far of our GC's memory box in some sort of order which it could certainly do with.

I am going to leave this thread now so that people cannot continue to try and be personal and start arguments in order to have it taken down

Autistic people are all different by the way

It's pretty obvious that that post was intended to be provocative eddie, like so many we've seen on here.